Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:31 pm
I think she’s asking someone else start a go fund me for her in order to avoid having to pay her debt. I’m curious why she thinks JD is responsible for her failure to run a franchise successfully, since, you know, she was “wildly” successful running a few Facebook groups and booking some gigs for Open Stories Foundation.

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I just want to know exactly what kind of franchise it was and what it had to do with her name.
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Kishkumen wrote:
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:17 pm



:shock:
I am going to go out on my own limb here and suggest that John just wants her to leave him be and live her life.
That is my impression and has been my impression all along.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:30 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:06 pm
I'll offer to redact the entire cache today, again, since Rosebud and JP have mentioned they're totes going to drop them ... once they're redacted. I'll do it. I'll do it for free. I'll maintain confidentiality. And I'll get it done today.

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That's a generous offer, Doc. Kinda like her offer to take over MDB and fix it.
Id be “wildly successful” if they just understand that I’m important to their enterprise. Joking aside, I’d literally honor my word, maintain anonymity, and get it done today.

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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:31 pm
I think she’s asking someone else start a go fund me for her in order to avoid having to pay her debt. I’m curious why she thinks JD is responsible for her failure to run a franchise successfully, since, you know, she was “wildly” successful running a few Facebook groups and booking some gigs for Open Stories Foundation.

- Doc
I just want to know exactly what kind of franchise it was and what it had to do with her name.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:33 pm
Therapists R US?
Is there any franchise that deals with online reputation massaging?

That is what I was guessing.

Dwight said it was a fast food thing, but he has not confirmed that.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:37 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
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Therapists R US?
Is there any franchise that deals with online reputation massaging?

That is what I was guessing.

Dwight said it was a fast food thing, but he has not confirmed that.
I would have no idea. I think that when people hear "franchise" they automatically think fast food chain, when there are numerous types of franchises.
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She's got multiple Facebook posts that are of that nature. She tends to throw the bait just long enough for you to open your mouth, but she never has any intention of feeding you. It's all about the hooks.
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The franchise has something to do with data collection if I remember correctly. She said she had to go down to a training in Texas just after signing the papers and during the training she identified the company is performing illegal collection because you call companies or something or people ask him a bunch of questions and record them without them knowing. She said she knew it was illegal because of all of her experiences with JD and how he always like to record people without them knowing and then posting little soundbites online to Humiliate them and hold them against them. She claims she took the evidence to the authorities but they didn’t believe her even though she has evidence and recordings of the training that she was receiving. It is all crazy convoluted mess.
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If I gave the impression fast food than I apologize. I’m on the phone so I won’t double check. In the interview she talks about this in much more detail.

The bones are the divorce goes fault and she says she only gets 3 more years of alimony to get to a position to provide for herself and her kids. She wasn’t going to be done with school cause it had been delayed due to her taking time off to deal with all of this. She decides her name is tainted and compares Google “JD” and it’s all his stuff you have to Google “JD affair” or similar to find that kind of stuff vs. her name the top results are all about the affair.

She felt she had no provable skills she feels, no reference from Open Stories Foundation, no degree, she will buy a franchise of some sort to be able to support herself. Then she went to training in Texas and found out the company does outbound sales calls and records the calls and gathers information that they then resell (I don’t know how why, but it sounds like data mining or demographic and interest stuff) since recording is illegal in at least two party states she nopes out. (I am wondering if there is an automated message saying it could be recorded for whatever reasons, who knows, I would not be surprised if it is in an ethical gray zone, she doesn’t have a good grasp of what feels is illegal and what is illegal) she then talks about what I am guessing are two different cases, her breaking the contract and a criminal referral she made to the state attorney general which went to a US prosecutor. She lost the fight to break her contract and I believe with costs and attorneys’ fees is where the $350,000 owed comes from.

Master_dc got some things right in his summary too. I wish she had doxxed this company so it could be investigated. I’m not sure why such a company would franchise things.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 4:33 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
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That's a generous offer, Doc. Kinda like her offer to take over MDB and fix it.
Id be “wildly successful” if they just understand that I’m important to their enterprise. Joking aside, I’d literally honor my word, maintain anonymity, and get it done today.

- Doc
Well you might have to wait until the website she just purchased is available. According to her it's almost ready. Yeah.
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