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Mktavish wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:snip


You are so correct on this point ... the Bible IS!!! so much different than any other book.

There is no other book that people believe every word in it. Why should they?

Yada yada ... I know its suppose to be the word of god. Hence not written of man. Can you really say that and keep a straight face?

This is the point that people will not agree on ... EVER!!!

Maybe in order for man to get along ... Man should write a book ... cuz god writing it didn't work for that purpose.

Yes, I can say that with a straight face. The Bible exposes the good, the bad, and the ugly about man. It doesn't paint him in "glowing terms." In fact it makes man look rather stupid and redundant. Is king David going to expose his roving eye. Is Solomon going to point out all his flaws? Are the apostles going to write about their bickering and mistakes? For what purpose? To show the world that man is sinful by nature and God is not like man (as the gods & goddesses of myths). Man needs a Savior. He is not a savior of himself.
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LittleNipper wrote: I'm in the Lord's army.


It's about time to give the latrines another once over.
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Numbers 17:1-13 Then the Lord tells Moses, to tell the people of Israel to bring their twelve wooden staffs, one from each leader of Israel’s ancestral tribes, and inscribe each leader’s name on his staff. Inscribe Aaron’s name on the staff of the tribe of Levi, for there must be one staff for the leader of each ancestral tribe. Place these staffs in the Tabernacle in front of the Ark containing the tablets of the Covenant, where God mets with them. Buds will sprout on the staff belonging to the man God chooses. God will finally put an end to the people’s murmuring.
Moses gave the instructions to the people of Israel, and each of the twelve tribal leaders, including Aaron, brought Moses a staff. Moses placed the staffs in the Lord’s presence in the Tabernacle of the Covenant. When he went into the Tabernacle of the Covenant the next day, he found that Aaron’s staff, representing the tribe of Levi, had sprouted, budded, blossomed, and produced ripe almonds!
When Moses brought all the staffs out from the Lord’s presence, he showed them to the people. Each man claimed his own staff. The Lord told Moses to place Aaron’s staff permanently before the Ark of the Covenant to serve as a warning to rebels. Then the people of Israel said to Moses, “Look, we are doomed! We are dead! We are ruined! Everyone who even comes close to the Tabernacle of the Lord dies. Are we all doomed to die?”


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, saying,

2 `Speak unto the sons of Israel, and take from them each a rod, for a father's house, from all their princes, for the house of their fathers, twelve rods; the name of each thou dost write on his rod,

3 and Aaron's name thou dost write on the tribe of Levi; for one rod [is] for the head of their fathers' house:

4 and thou hast placed them in the tent of meeting, before the testimony, where I meet with you.

5 `And it hath come to pass, the man's rod on whom I fix doth flourish, and I have caused to cease from off me the murmurings of the sons of Israel, which they are murmuring against you.'

6 And Moses speaketh unto the sons of Israel, and all their princes give unto him one rod for a prince, one rod for a prince, for their fathers' house, twelve rods, and the rod of Aaron [is] in the midst of their rods;

7 and Moses placeth the rods before Jehovah, in the tent of the testimony.

8 And it cometh to pass, on the morrow, that Moses goeth in unto the tent of the testimony, and lo, the rod of Aaron hath flourished for the house of Levi, and is bringing out flourishing, and doth blossom blossoms, and doth produce almonds;

9 and Moses bringeth out all the rods from before Jehovah, unto all the sons of Israel, and they look, and take each his rod.

10 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Put back the rod of Aaron, before the testimony, for a charge, for a sign to the sons of rebellion, and thou dost remove their murmurings from off me, and they do not die;'

11 and Moses doth as Jehovah hath commanded him; so he hath done.

12 And the sons of Israel speak unto Moses, saying, `Lo, we have expired; we have perished; we have all of us perished;

13 any who is at all drawing near unto the tabernacle of Jehovah dieth; have we not been consumed -- to expire?'
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Numbers 18:1-32 The Lord tells Aaron that his sons, and relatives from the tribe of Levi will be responsible for any offenses related to the sanctuary. But him and his sons alone will be held responsible for violations connected with the priesthood. Aaron may bring relatives of the tribe of Levi (his ancestral tribe) to assist in sacred duties in front of the Tabernacle of the Covenant. But as the Levites go about all their assigned duties at the Tabernacle, they must be careful not to go near any of the sacred objects or the altar. If they do, both Aaron and they will die. The Levites must join you in fulfilling their responsibilities for the care and maintenance of the Tabernacle, but no unauthorized person may assist the priest.
The priests must perform the sacred duties inside the sanctuary and at the altar. If they follow these instructions, the Lord’s anger will never again blaze against the people of Israel. God has chosen fellow Levites from among the Israelites to be special assistants. They are a gift, dedicated to the Lord for service in the Tabernacle. But the priests, must personally handle all the priestly rituals associated with the altar and with everything behind the inner curtain.
God, Himself has put Arron in charge of all the holy offerings that are brought to God by the people of Israel. God has given all these consecrated offerings to Arron and his sons as their permanent share. They are allotted the portion of the most holy offerings that is not burned on the fire. This portion of all the most holy offerings—including the grain offerings, sin offerings, and guilt offerings—will be most holy. They must eat it as a most holy offering. All the males may eat of it, and yhey must treat it as most holy. All the sacred offerings and special offerings presented to God when the Israelites lift them up before the altar also have been given them to Aaron and his sons and daughters as your permanent share. Any member of Arron's family who is ceremonially clean may eat of these offerings. They are also given the harvest gifts brought by the people as offerings to the Lord—the best of the olive oil, new wine, and grain. All the first crops of their land that the people present to the Lord are theirs as well.
The firstborn of every mother, whether human or animal, that is offered to the Lord will be Aaron's. He must always redeem his firstborn sons and the firstborn of ceremonially unclean animals when they are one month old. The redemption price is five pieces of silver. However, they may not redeem the firstborn of cattle, sheep, or goats. They are holy and have been set apart for the Lord. Sprinkle their blood on the altar, and burn their fat as a special gift, a pleasing aroma to the Lord. The meat of these animals will be theirs, just like the breast and right thigh that are presented by lifting them up as a special offering before the altar. This is an eternal and unbreakable covenant between the Lord and Aaron, and it applies to his descendants. Priests will receive no allotment of land or share of property among the people of Israel. I am your share and your allotment. God will give them the tithes from the entire land of Israel. The Lord also told Moses, to instruct the Levites to give a tenth of the tithes they receive (a Tenth of aTenth) to the Lord as a sacred offering. The Lord will consider this offering to be their harvest offering, as though it were the first grain from their own threshing floor or wine from their own winepress. Be sure to give to the Lord the best portions of the gifts given. The Levites and their families may eat their portion of food anywhere they wish. But be careful not to treat the holy gifts of the people of Israel as though they were common or they will die.


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah saith unto Aaron, `Thou, and thy sons, and the house of thy father with thee, do bear the iniquity of the sanctuary; and thou, and thy sons with thee, do bear the iniquity of your priesthood;

2 and also thy brethren, the tribe of Levi, the tribe of thy father, bring near with thee, and they are joined unto thee, and serve thee, even thou and thy sons with thee, before the tent of the testimony.

3 `And they have kept thy charge, and the charge of all the tent; only, unto the vessels of the sanctuary and unto the altar they do not come near, and they die not, either they or you;

4 and they have been joined unto thee, and have kept the charge of the tent of meeting, for all the service of the tent; and a stranger doth not come near unto you;

5 and ye have kept the charge of the sanctuary, and the charge of the altar, and there is no more wrath against the sons of Israel.

6 `And I, lo, I have taken your brethren the Levites from the midst of the sons of Israel; to you a gift they are given by Jehovah, to do the service of the tent of meeting;

7 and thou, and thy sons with thee, do keep your priesthood, for everything of the altar, and within the vail, and ye have served; a service of gift I make your priesthood; and the stranger who is coming near is put to death.'

8 And Jehovah speaketh unto Aaron: `And I, lo, I have given to thee the charge of My heave-offerings, of all the hallowed things of the sons of Israel -- to thee I have given them for the anointing, and to thy sons, by a statute age-during.

9 This is thine of the most holy things, from the fire: all their offering, to all their present, and to all their sin-offering, and to all their guilt-offering, which they give back to Me, is most holy to thee, and to thy sons;

10 in the holy of holies thou dost eat it; every male doth eat it; holy it is to thee.

11 `And this [is] thine: the heave-offering of their gift, to all the wave-offerings of the sons of Israel, to thee I have given them, and to thy sons, and to thy daughters with thee, by a statute age-during; every clean one in thy house doth eat it;

12 all the best of the oil, and all the best of the new wine, and wheat -- their first-[fruits] which they give to Jehovah -- to thee I have given them.

13 `The first-fruits of all that [is] in their land, which they bring in to Jehovah, are thine; every clean one in thy house doth eat it;

14 every devoted thing in Israel is thine,

15 every one opening a womb of all flesh which they bring near to Jehovah, among man and among beast, is thine; only, thou dost certainly ransom the first-born of man, and the firstling of the unclean beast thou dost ransom.

16 `And their ransomed ones from a son of a month, thou dost ransom with thy valuation, of silver, five shekels, by the shekel of the sanctuary, twenty gerahs it [is].

17 `Only, the firstling of a cow, or the firstling of a sheep, or the firstling of a goat, thou dost not ransom, holy they [are]: their blood thou dost sprinkle on the altar, and of their fat thou makest perfume, a fire-offering of sweet fragrance to Jehovah,

18 and their flesh is thine, as the breast of the wave-offering, and as the right leg, it is thine;

19 all the heave-offerings of the holy things which the sons of Israel lift up to Jehovah I have given to thee and to thy sons, and to thy daughters with thee, by a statute age-during, a covenant of salt, age-during it [is] before Jehovah, to thee and to thy seed with thee.'

20 And Jehovah saith unto Aaron, `In their land thou dost not inherit, and a portion thou hast not in their midst: I [am] thy portion, and thine inheritance in the midst of the sons of Israel;

21 and to the sons of Levi, lo, I have given all the tenth in Israel for inheritance in exchange for their service which they are serving -- the service of the tent of meeting.

22 `And the sons of Israel come no more near unto the tent of meeting, to bear sin, to die,

23 and the Levites have done the service of the tent of meeting, and they -- they bear their iniquity; a statute age-during to your generations, that in the midst of the sons of Israel they have no inheritance;

24 but the tithe of the sons of Israel which they lift up to Jehovah, a heave-offering, I have given to the Levites for inheritance; therefore I have said of them, In the midst of the sons of Israel they have no inheritance.'

25 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, saying,

26 `And unto the Levites thou dost speak; and thou hast said unto them, When ye take from the sons of Israel the tithe which I have given to you from them, for your inheritance, then ye have lifted up from it the heave-offering of Jehovah, a tithe of the tithe;

27 and your heave-offering hath been reckoned to you as corn from the threshing-floor, and as fulness from the wine-vat;

28 so ye do lift up -- ye also -- the heave-offering of Jehovah from all your tithes which ye receive from the sons of Israel; and ye have given from it the heave-offering of Jehovah to Aaron the priest;

29 out of all your gifts ye do lift up the whole heave-offering of Jehovah; out of all its fat, -- its hallowed part -- out of it.

30 `And thou hast said unto them, In your lifting up its fat out of it, then it hath been reckoned to the Levites, as increase of a threshing-floor, and as increase of a wine-vat;

31 and ye have eaten it in every place, ye and your households, for it [is] your hire in exchange for your service in the tent of meeting;

32 and ye bear no sin for it, in your lifting up its fat out of it, and the holy things of the sons of Israel ye do not pollute, and ye die not.'
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LittleNipper wrote:First, you must explain why it is you disagree with all of it.


Bazooka wrote:Because it's all man made myth and legend mingled with some history - God has had nothing to do with its production.

You may wish to read and see the following: http://worldinvisible.com/apologet/Bible.htm
There is a big difference between the Bible and any other such book.[/quote]

That's not an explanation. Come on you said you'd explain, please do so.
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LittleNipper wrote:
This is historic data. I present a synopsis of Youngs literal translation of the chapter in question. When we move beyond absolute historic data to the prophetic and allegorical, then I will include further explanation. But the reality is, that what is ---- is. If you do not understand something, please let me know and I will provide a further explanation. But I must assume that the readers are in full agreement with what I have presented or they would say that they disagree ---- where, why, and how. As it is, I am told that I am just reprinting what everyone already understands and agrees with. In fact, I am told that there is no reason for me to continue as they get it ------------ or so it would seem. :rolleyes:


I wouldn't go to a Church to listen to a sermon if all the Pastor did was just quote from the Bible there. I would want the Pastor to at least offer commentary of the Bible Passages that he or she is quoting from. I can find the whole Bible online on several different web sites, and go read it there.
Here are the Hyperlinks to Numbers Chapters 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24:

Numbers Chapter 19:

Numbers Chapter 20:

Numbers Chapter 21:

Numbers Chapter 22:

Numbers Chapter 23:

Numbers Chapter 24:


Here is the Link to Biblegateway.com:

http://www.biblegateway.com/
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Numbers 19:1-22 The Lord gives another legal requirement to the people of Israel to bring a red heifer, a perfect animal that has no defects and has never been yoked to a plow. It is to be given to Eleazar the priest, and it will be taken outside the camp and slaughtered in his presence. Eleazar will take some of its blood on his finger and sprinkle it seven times toward the front of the Tabernacle. Eleazar must watch the heifer burne (hide, meat, blood, and dung). Eleazar the priest must then take a stick of cedar, a hyssop branch, and some scarlet yarn and throw them into the fire where the heifer is burning.The and the man who burns the animal & the priest must wash their clothes and bathe in water. Then they may return to the camp, though they will remain ceremonially unclean until that evening. Then someone who is ceremonially clean will gather up the ashes of the heifer and deposit them in a purified place outside the camp. They will be kept there for the community of Israel to use in the water for the purification ceremony. This ceremony is performed for the removal of sin. The man who gathers up the ashes of the heifer must also wash his clothes, and he will remain ceremonially unclean until evening. This is a permanent law for the people of Israel and any foreigners who live among them. All those who touch a dead human body will be ceremonially unclean for seven days. They must purify themselves on the third and seventh days with the water of purification; then they will be purified. But if they do not do this on the third and seventh days, they will continue to be unclean after the seventh day. All those who touch a dead body and do not purify themselves in the proper way defile the Lord’s Tabernacle, and they will be cut off from the community of Israel.
All those who enter a tent and those who were inside when a death occurred will be ceremonially unclean for seven days. All open containers in the tent that were not covered with a lid are defiled. If someone in an open field touches the corpse of someone who was killed with a sword or who died a natural death, or if someone touches a human bone or a grave, that person will be defiled for seven days. To remove the defilement, put some of the ashes from the burnt purification offering in a jar, and pour fresh water over them. Then someone who is ceremonially clean must take a hyssop branch and dip it into the water. That person must sprinkle the water (on the third and seventh days) on the tent, on all the furnishings in the tent, and on the people who were in the tent; also on the person who touched a human bone, or touched someone who was killed or who died naturally, or touched a grave. On the seventh day the people being cleansed must wash their clothes and bathe themselves, and that evening they will be cleansed of their defilement. Those who become defiled and do not purify themselves will be cut off from the community, for they have defiled the sanctuary of the Lord. These are permanent laws for Israel.
[ God is demonstrating to everyone that to keep God's Laws is impossible for anyone but God Himself ]
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, and unto Aaron, saying,

2 `This [is] a statute of the law which Jehovah hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the sons of Israel, and they bring unto thee a red cow, a perfect one, in which there is no blemish, on which no yoke hath gone up;

3 and ye have given it unto Eleazar the priest, and he hath brought it out unto the outside of the camp, and hath slaughtered it before him.

4 `And Eleazar the priest hath taken of its blood with his finger, and hath sprinkled over-against the front of the tent of meeting of her blood seven times;

5 and [one] hath burnt the cow before his eyes; her skin, and her flesh, and her blood, besides her dung, he doth burn;

6 and the priest hath taken cedar wood, and hyssop, and scarlet, and hath cast unto the midst of the burning of the cow;

7 and the priest hath washed his garments, and hath bathed his flesh with water, and afterwards doth come in unto the camp, and the priest is unclean till the evening;

8 and he who is burning it doth wash his garments with water, and hath bathed his flesh with water, and is unclean till the evening.

9 `And a clean man hath gathered the ashes of the cow, and hath placed at the outside of the camp, in a clean place, and it hath become to the company of the sons of Israel a charge for waters of separation -- it [is] a [cleansing];

10 and he who is gathering the ashes of the heifer hath washed his garments, and is unclean till the evening; and it hath been to the sons of Israel, and to the sojourner who is sojourning in their midst, for a statute age-during.

11 `He who is coming against the dead body of any man -- is unclean seven days;

12 he doth cleanse himself for it on the third day, and on the seventh day he is clean; and if he cleanse not himself on the third day, then on the seventh day he is not clean.

13 Any one who is coming against the dead, against the body of man who dieth, and cleanseth not himself -- the tabernacle of Jehovah he hath defiled, and that person hath been cut off from Israel, for water of separation is not sprinkled upon him; he is unclean; his uncleanness [is] still upon him.

14 `This [is] the law, when a man dieth in a tent: every one who is coming in unto the tent, and all that [is] in the tent, is unclean seven days;

15 and every open vessel which hath no covering of thread upon it is unclean.

16 `And every one who cometh, on the face of the field, against the pierced of a sword, or against the dead, or against a bone of man, or against a grave, is unclean seven days;

17 and they have taken for the unclean person of the ashes of the burning of the [cleansing], and he hath put upon it running water unto a vessel;

18 and a clean person hath taken hyssop, and hath dipped [it] in water, and hath sprinkled on the tent, and on all the vessels, and on the persons who have been there, and on him who is coming against a bone, or against one pierced, or against the dead, or against a grave.

19 `And the clean hath sprinkled [it] on the unclean on the third day, and on the seventh day, and hath cleansed him on the seventh day, and he hath washed his garments, and hath bathed with water, and hath been clean in the evening.

20 `And the man who is unclean, and doth not cleanse himself, even that person hath been cut off from the midst of the assembly; for the sanctuary of Jehovah he hath defiled; water of separation is not sprinkled upon him; he [is] unclean.

21 `And it hath been to them for a statute age-during, that he who is sprinkling the water of separation doth wash his garments, and he who is coming against the water of separation is unclean till the evening,

22 and all against which the unclean person cometh is unclean, and the person who is coming against [it] is unclean till the evening.'
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