Is God a Mormon?

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Bazooka wrote:...(snip)...Air pollution plagues Salt Lake City...(snip)...

nice derail attempt...but...your posts are getting more and more less informed:

During mid-winter, strong areas of high pressure often situate themselves over the Great Basin, leading to strong temperature inversions. This causes air stagnation and thick smog in the valley from several days to weeks at a time and can result in the worst air-pollution levels in the U.S., reducing air quality to unhealthy levels

Not intended to give Kennecott a free pass, but it should be realized that many urban problems are not so simple in either cause or solution.
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Mktavish wrote: So it was necessary in your view moksha?


Being necessary and being foreordained are two separate concepts. Was it necessary to spread Smucker's Jam all over the Pieta? No, but there were a lot of jars sitting around begging to be opened.
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bcspace wrote:
Well, I heard for a fact in my LDS Gospel Doctrine Class that Adam was a Mormon and I assume that somewhere there has been LDS speculation that God and Jesus were also Mormon.

So what is the scoop of this?


They are all Mormons though of course the Church wasn't necessarily known by that name in the past. The LDS Church is the only true Church according to God (D&C 1:30)



Which God? The God of this Earth, the one Joseph Smith admitted gave him revelations?
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The phrase “god of this world” (or “god of this age”) indicates that Satan is the major influence on the ideals, opinions, goals, hopes and views of the majority of people. His influence also encompasses the world’s philosophies, education, and commerce. The thoughts, ideas, speculations and false religions of the world are under his control and have sprung from his lies and deceptions. Satan is also called the "prince of the power of the air" in Ephesians 2:2. He is the "ruler of this world" in John 12:31. These titles and many more signify Satan’s capabilities. To say, for example, that Satan is the "prince of the power of the air" is to signify that in some way he rules over the world and the people in it.

God is still sovereign. But it does mean that God, in His infinite wisdom, has allowed Satan to operate in this world within the boundaries God has set for him. When the Bible says Satan has power over the world, we must remember that God has given him domain over unbelievers only. Believers are no longer under the rule of Satan (Colossians 1:13). Unbelievers, on the other hand, are caught "in the snare of the devil" (2 Timothy 2:26), lie in the "power of the evil one" (1 John 5:19), and are in bondage to Satan (Ephesians 2:2). When the Bible says that Satan is the "god of this world," it is not saying that he has ultimate authority. Satan rules over the unbelieving world in a specific way. In 2 Corinthians 4:4, the unbeliever follows Satan's agenda: "The god of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ." Satan's scheme includes promoting false philosophies in the world—philosophies that blind the unbeliever to the truth of the Gospel. Satan’s philosophies are the fortresses in which people are imprisoned, and they must be set free by Christ.

An example of one such false philosophy is the belief that man can earn God's favor by a certain act or acts. In almost every false religion, meriting God’s favor or earning eternal life is a predominate theme. Earning salvation by works, however, is contrary to biblical revelation. Man cannot work to earn God's favor; eternal life is a free gift (see Ephesians 2:8-9). And that free gift is available through Jesus Christ and Him alone (John 3:16; 14:6). You may ask why mankind does not simply receive the free gift of salvation (John 1:12). The answer is that Satan—the god of this world—has tempted mankind to follow his pride instead. Satan sets the agenda, the unbelieving world follows, and mankind continues to be deceived. It is no wonder that Scripture calls Satan a liar (John 8:44).

Could the Mormon "god" be Satan?
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LittleNipper wrote:Could the Mormon "god" be Satan?


Yep.
So could the God of Little Nipper.
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Mktavish wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:snip


Ok nipper , lets have a closer look at what god tells us to do and what the devil tells us to do.

God says " stay on this one path and don't branch out in experiencing all these other avenue's of life.
Devil says" hey come over and have a look at this that and the other thing , give em a try ... maybe you'll learn something"

God says " be humble and have no pride in anything you do , for you are a dirty rag and should kneel before me"
Devil says"screw that nonsense . you should be proud of useing your talents in this world , its what makes you grow , by actually doing something and getting the feeling of pride for positive re enforcement to continue to grow and do better"

God says " do as I say or you will be damned for eternity"
Devil says" Bowing and kneeling to him is going to start to feel like hell after a few decades , can you imagine what eternity is going to feel like? "

I could go on and on here , but I think you see my point (or not)
Which one of these 2 fellows looks to be wanting to imprison souls? A mortal life here of being pious and doing as god says , is just getting you ready to be controlled for eternity.
Have you ever wondered , why does god in his infinite wisdom and knowledge require to be worshiped , what does he get out of it?

When people on this earth exhibit the traits of god , we usually label them as bad people. Why is it going to be any different in the after life?

Actually, the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

Satan disguised as a slick serpent said, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’? ------ You will not certainly die. For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

God through His Holy Word reminds us that all of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like menstrul rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
Satan in the pride of his heart says, "I will ascend to the heavens;I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”

Jesus says, "I AM the Resurrection and the Life! Whoever puts his trust in me will live, even if he dies."
Satan says, "I will give you all these things if you throw yourself to the ground and worship me."
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