From Whence Came the Holy Ghost?

[_Albion]

Since I do not believe that the Book of Mormon was written by Smith, I have to conclude it was written by someone who clearly taught and understood trinitarian christianity.

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[_tagriffy]

This is a question in two parts that I was hoping some Christian and LDS scholars could explain:

1. When did the Holy Spirit appear as part of the Christian cosmology? I imagine the idea was around in the early days
of the Church and perhaps even was part of some earlier gnostic tradition, but that is just a guess pull out of the air.

2. What is the LDS explanation as to the origin of the Holy Ghost?

Hope you can help give me the scoop on HG, since this is a good thing to know when discussing religion.

1. Since the Holy Spirit is mentioned by Paul (e.g., 1 Corinthians 12:3), I would assume the concept was part of Christian cosmology by the 50s A.D. I believe it can be traced to some Jewish traditions, but I don't have the means to quite track it down.

2. I don't think there is an official LDS explanation of the origin of the Holy Ghost. There are some folk traditions, but I don't think any of them would qualify as "the" LDS explanation.

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[_subgenius]

How about .... hey those guys have something called the holy ghost , I think we can expand on that concept and turn it into an individuals personal buddy.

But if you think about it (Mormon concept) Its sort of saying that god and Jesus don't have time to deal with your petty concerns , so here is their lacky called the Holy Ghost.

Sheesh ... if I was the holy ghost , I think I would be insenced :\

Unlikely. Your theory is underdeveloped and misguided.
You need to consider how HF interacts with mankind on this earth and how man is able to know or not know the presence if Him. Also consider the necessity of JC being a physical entity of a discernable characteristic.
Then remit your revised theory

[_moksha]

How about .... hey those guys have something called the holy ghost , I think we can expand on that concept and turn it into an individuals personal buddy.

But if you think about it (Mormon concept) Its sort of saying that god and Jesus don't have time to deal with your petty concerns , so here is their lacky called the Holy Ghost.

Sheesh ... if I was the holy ghost , I think I would be insenced :\

Unlikely. Your theory is underdeveloped and misguided.
You need to consider how HF interacts with mankind on this earth and how man is able to know or not know the presence if Him. Also consider the necessity of JC being a physical entity of a discernable characteristic.
Then remit your revised theory

Remit a revised theory, eh? Okay, how about Jesus as matter, God as energy and then the Holy Spirit can be the constant of the speed of light squared.

Ha! Bet you didn't expect the Special Ed Theory of Relativity, although that would put the Krebs Cycle on some pretty special footing, with the Kingdom of God being within and all.

[_Bazooka]

Unlikely. Your theory is underdeveloped and misguided.
You need to consider how HF interacts with mankind on this earth and how man is able to know or not know the presence if Him. Also consider the necessity of JC being a physical entity of a discernable characteristic.
Then remit your revised theory

1. Exactly how does the Holy Ghost interact with mankind?
And on the assumption you reply with something less than specific...
2. How can one differentiate between a communication from the Holy Ghost and communication from any other source?

[_subgenius]

Unlikely. Your theory is underdeveloped and misguided.
You need to consider how HF interacts with mankind on this earth and how man is able to know or not know the presence if Him. Also consider the necessity of JC being a physical entity of a discernable characteristic.
Then remit your revised theory

1. Exactly how does the Holy Ghost interact with mankind?

while i appreciate your usual tactic of answering questions with questions...i believe i stated that you needed to consider.

And on the assumption you reply with something less than specific...

a.k.a. - "reply in a manner i do not want appreciate or fail to give me the answer i have carefully presupposed".

2. How can one differentiate between a communication from the Holy Ghost and communication from any other source?

i believe that question has been explored quite extensively on other threads that you alter-ego Drifting was involved with....however, the ability to differentiate is quite simple and obvious.....self-evident even...you do understand don't you?

[_subgenius]

...(snip)...Ha! Bet you didn't expect the Special Ed Theory...(snip)...

i have been on this board enough to expect little more....thank you for meeting the bar which lies merely a quark above the ground.

[_Bazooka]

Subby,

1. Exactly how does the Holy Ghost interact with mankind?

2. How can one differentiate between a communication from the Holy Ghost and communication from any other source?