The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
_Droopy
_Emeritus
Posts: 9826
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Droopy »

EAllusion wrote:
Droopy wrote:
This is ostensibly evidence for severely disproportionate levels of social pathology within much of America's black communities, not white racism, for which there is no logical connection with these data.

Drug use rates among blacks and whites in America are approximately the same. Yet a huge majority of people in jail for non-violent drug use charges are black. How does your theory of "disproportionate social pathology" square with that data?



Its not a theory, Mr. Wizard, but a matter of well-known and longstanding empirical facts that have changed little over several decades. If you can't even deal with fundamental common empirical knowledge on matters of sociological patterns and trends, then I'm afraid you've recused yourself from the table of serious discourse on these issues.

In any case, statistics, of themselves, tell us nothing regarding the causal factors involved in such phenomena as disparate incarceration rates or, for another example, disparate discipline rates at public schools:

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomasso ... /page/full

Its rather amusing to see a self-proclaimed "libertarian" attempting to foist what is essentially the traditional conspiracy theory regarding nation-wide institutional white racism within the criminal justice system and among police officers nationally as a class that arose originally within neo-Marxism and the black power movement and remains today centered within the radical Left.

The intellectual fraudulence of this position is, however, palpable:

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html ... ddmCKzK2Zg

The "sage of South Central" unpacks the key facts and their implications here:

http://www.larryelder.com/b/Five-Myths- ... 01581.html

An interesting point from the above essay:

In 2010, blacks were 31.8 percent of all arrests for drug crimes. But arrests for drug offenses are only 12.4 percent of all non-traffic arrests in the country and accounted for 14.2 percent of the offenses for which blacks were arrested.
Last edited by Guest on Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
_Darth J
_Emeritus
Posts: 13392
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 12:16 am

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Darth J »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ok.

You're not at the gym.

Fat ass.

- Doc


I know! Maybe after I go, you can give me some tips on beating up women.
_Darth J
_Emeritus
Posts: 13392
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 12:16 am

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Darth J »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Darth J wrote:Sure.

Let's start with your knowledge of Florida criminal law and the evidence that George Zimmerman's lawyer obtained in discovery.


Wait.

Have you passed the Florida bar?

- Doc


No. Nor am I making a bunch of claims about the merits of the George Zimmerman trial.
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _ajax18 »

I think the African American race card thoroughly trumped the Hispanic race card in the Zimmerman case.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
_EAllusion
_Emeritus
Posts: 18519
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:39 pm

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _EAllusion »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=871_1372954613

What's the point of that link? How is it at all relevant here? Every single comment I read in the comments section was horribly racist, but I gave up early on. If I didn't know any better you were trying to inflame with the same sentiment.
_EAllusion
_Emeritus
Posts: 18519
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:39 pm

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _EAllusion »

So Dr. Cam posts a link of a video of a man convicted of murderer flipping out upon being sentenced to life with parole and intimidating the victims family. His family mourns his sentence and at one point at least one of them yells at the victims family that they hate them. There is literally nothing about the video relevant to this thread except for the fact that the man is black.

Just reading down the comments section here is a sample what people say:
I love how the murderer's family screams at the sentencing like he's the victim... damned apes.

Screw you you filthy animal...


That's the problem with modern society, the left wing elite have indoctrinated the public into believing that it is beneficial to have these subhumans in our midsts!

All of his family are a bunch of miserble sub human ghetto blacks. What did you expect you monkeys? I feel bad for the family of the victim. And why isn't this story getting as much coverage as the treyvon punk trial.? Talk about racism...thesr blacks are the biggest racists in the USA


Keeping this feral animal incarcerated for the next 60 years will cost the taxpayer millions.

Reduce him to a wisp of smoke going up a chimney now and spare the expense.


Its not getting the coverage because whites have by majority lost their confidence and dignity. It will take something so heinous and far reaching, like ethnic cleansing...even then.

Sad thing is we were paying for his piece of crap mother to sit at home and watch Oprah while she was not raising him to be a man. Now we get to pay for both of these wastes of damned life all the while knowing that both their lives will never be any benefit to anything.


That's exactly what screeching chimpanzees sound like. IDENTICAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPPVdxg3KQs

Another piece of excrement flushed down the toilet of our society.


Once again, an innocent and productive white person, in this case a college student, is killed by a black animal for no real reason other than the fact that these savages have no place in society.


This would have been better if they killed the guy in front of his family in the courtroom. I love hearing chimps scream. Like the little chimp in the "Trashy mom gets tased" video... Priceless.


Exterminate the filthy beast's entire bloodline.


“F” this JIGGAB@@..let his black ass rot in jail..have a nice long locked up life


I'm saying it

N***** family

Disgusting monkey mother idiots

How dare you tell the family you hate them. Your little animal
Of of child robed, shot and killed an innocent student.
Hope he and the rest of the family rot in hell.


Typical, despicable negro thug crime: murdering someone for absolutely no goddamn good reason, and then being certain that they got screwed just for facing the obvious consequences. damned prick asshole.


It goes on and on.

Classy link. Of course, several people there compare this to the Zimmerman case and complain that there isn't enough media attention on this crime. Maybe that's the sentiment Dr. Cam is agreeing with in-between all the unconscionably vile racism. But, of note, the guy was convicted of murder and given the harshest sentence possible, right?
_Jutta
_Emeritus
Posts: 307
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:07 pm

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Jutta »

Zimmermann is found "Not Guilty". Why? It Looks to me like a bunch of racists gave a racist a free Card. They were NO Eywitness in that place, and only Zimmermann is living. There were found NO marks, that he was beaten or slammed by Martin. So, no case od self defense. But a case of manslaughter or murder. For Florida it means this to whit racists: KILL BLACK MEN, you would come free!
Shame to the Grand Jury!
“People generally quarrel because they cannot argue.” --- G.K. Chesterton
_Brackite
_Emeritus
Posts: 6382
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:12 am

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Brackite »

Jutta wrote:Zimmermann is found "Not Guilty". Why? It Looks to me like a bunch of racists gave a racist a free Card. They were NO Eywitness in that place, and only Zimmermann is living. There were found NO marks, that he was beaten or slammed by Martin. So, no case od self defense. But a case of manslaughter or murder. For Florida it means this to whit racists: KILL BLACK MEN, you would come free!
Shame to the Grand Jury!


http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/13/3 ... legal.html
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
_Jutta
_Emeritus
Posts: 307
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:07 pm

Re: The Zimmerman Trial and Black Skin Privilege

Post by _Jutta »

Brackite wrote:
Jutta wrote:Zimmermann is found "Not Guilty". Why? It Looks to me like a bunch of racists gave a racist a free Card. They were NO Eywitness in that place, and only Zimmermann is living. There were found NO marks, that he was beaten or slammed by Martin. So, no case od self defense. But a case of manslaughter or murder. For Florida it means this to whit racists: KILL BLACK MEN, you would come free!
Shame to the Grand Jury!


http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/13/3 ... legal.html



As far as I have understood the article from the link; Zimmermann got free because the jury believes in self-defense. But how can it be self-defense with an unarmed man?
Did the small one want to strangle man for the brawny Zimmermann with his teeth, to shoot him with his fingers or stabbed to death? It's a joke!
It is fact that Zimmermann had called the police. It is fact that the police told him he should not pursue this young man further. It is fact that Zimmermann did it anyway. Hero complex?
There is no living eyewitness apart from Zimmermann. And, if a defendant says he would have acted in self-defense; it is not to find a weapon at the victim, however; one does not even need to be intelligent; to recognize that he had lied.
If Zimmermann was not a racialist, then he was an overenthusiastic and anxious person who would never have been allowed to go along with that into a neighborhood guard.
For me it was homicide if not even 2nd degree murder.
“People generally quarrel because they cannot argue.” --- G.K. Chesterton
Post Reply