EAllusion wrote:Charlie Chaplin was blacklisted for leftwing beliefs during the McCarthyism era. He was denied reentry into the United States when caught traveling abroad. The House on Un-American Activities Committee investigated him for, among other things, allegedly putting communist propaganda in his films.
And now it turns out he was a conservative all along. Go figure.
It was the liberals who were behind McCarthyism, you know.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Again, it doesn't matter what Charlie Chaplin was, believed or was thought to be, the SPEECH in question demonstrated entirely Conservative ideology's and thought.
It should be obvious to that Liberals can sometimes say and think like a conservative. Obama certainly does it which is why the left doesn't think he sometimes as left as he actually is.
Also, I'm still waiting for the actual FACTS from the speech that make it "Anti-Conservative".
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
ldsfaqs wrote:Again, it doesn't matter what Charlie Chaplin was, believed or was thought to be, the SPEECH in question demonstrated entirely Conservative ideology's and thought.
Chaplin was a bleeding heart liberal and that comes through in this speech. That's why he goes on and on about feelings. If you think what he was saying is the beating heart of conservatism, then you are more friendly to liberals than you thought.
If it is any help, it isn't an anti-conservative speech. It's an anti-fascist speech. Both the left and the right have types of authoritarianism animating them and what his speech really is attacking is authoritarianism. Both the left and right also have non-authoritarian wings. So it's really not anti-conservative or pro-conservative.
You could've said this, but instead you choose to say ill-informed things about the politics of Chaplin's art. You should stop being so knee-jerk about needing to defend anything you think gets the label "conservative" and attack anything that gets the label "liberal."
I never said anything about the "politics of Chaplin's Art"..... I didn't post the video making a false claim. I simply debunked the false claim.
Further, I already stated that the ONLY thing "liberal" in the video was some emphasis on "feelings", but again, that's not a "liberal" thing, it's universal among anyone who has feelings. And conservatives are a very feeling people in our love, charity, etc. toward others.
I then said, if the video is to be considered anything, it would be conservative given all the subjects mentioned. That's simply the facts.
As to it being anti-fascist. Sure, that was the main point of the video, who has denied that? Certainly not I.
Also, your premise is utterly false. While it's true on rare occasion a conservative (in some form) can engage in a fascist way, name a single instance of history or currently in which conservatives have "fascist government"? Every fascist government currently that I can see embraces communist and socialist ideologies, which are decidedly LIBERAL. Every government in the U.S. that exhibits fascist aspects is LIBERAL. You can't point to "religion" as being conservative either, because there are Religious Liberals, and the Left cozy up and identify with the fanatics of Islam (such as the recent PBS secret tape/sting) so you can't claim the radical elements of Islam as being "conservative".
Conservative ideals are pro-Liberty..... The "extreme" of the Right isn't Fascism, it's RON PAUL, the anti-thesis of Fascism. But the extreme of the Left IS Fascism. It goes Socialism, Communism, Fascism on the left. On the Right it's Moderate, Conservative, Libertarian.
I know leftist educators have taught you a different spectrum, but that's not reality, this spectrum is the actual reality.
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
Don't know how you can say that....? Every statement made by Christ in that video are Conservative ideals.
Now waiting for actual FACTS from "both" videos of how they are "anti-conservative". I've already shown by the facts of one video that's it's conservative. And certainly Christ's values are conservative also, and the liberals here are against said values.
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
ldsfaqs wrote:- Technology - Many Liberals eschew technology, wanting us to be more "primative" so we can save the planet.
One great example of this is when a Republican president had solar panels installed in the White House in 1979, and then when a Democratic president was elected in 1981, one of the first things he did was order that the solar panels be removed.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
ldsfaqs wrote:- Technology - Many Liberals eschew technology, wanting us to be more "primative" so we can save the planet.
One great example of this is when a Republican president had solar panels installed in the White House in 1979, and then when a Democratic president was elected in 1981, one of the first things he did was order that the solar panels be removed.
haa haa...
1. Carters solar panels were a boondoggle waste of money, only powering some "water heaters". For the cost, it was a huge waste.
2. Lie lie lie..... as usual. The panels were removed in 1986 entirely because the roof needed to be redone, and the panels were considered usless.
3. 3 years later and Obama still hasn't put panels on, after being announced.
4. No one said liberals weren't hypocrites..... They like technology, but then they don't like it, while flying around in their Jets, powering their huge mansions, etc.
Elite class liberals are not the standard every day liberal. Plus, I said "many" liberals, I did not say "all". Learn English.
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
