The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
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The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
As you know, the LDS Church began practicing polygamy in its early days and continued up until the first part of the 20th Century. The finishing blow to polygamy came when President Joseph F. Smith declared the LDS Temple to be off limits to practicing polygamists and so it seemed like it spelled the end for polygamy. The forces of traditional marriage had won and the Mormon passageway to the highest degree of exaltation seemed forever closed, or at least from the multiple wives entry way.
Or had it?
That is where clever social engineering and a knowledge of how to get things done entered the picture. Let’s call it the Mormon Agenda.
The question was how to enable the practice of polygamy once again. Surely the forces behind traditional marriage would thwart the reintroduction to polygamy, so the solution was simple: To undermine the forces of traditional marriage in such a way that it could encompass the Celestial blessing of polygamy, yet at the same time to remove from the LDS Church any suspicion of complicity in that undermining.
How best to achieve the end of traditional marriage? By altering the fundamental assumptions underlying its foundation of course! Three primary objectives where outlined:
1. Introduction of the idea that all people were entitled to civil rights under the law. It was noted that a whole class of citizens with less than white and therefore delightsome skin were deprived of their civil liberties by both law and practice. This disenfranchisement must end but the world must never know the Church supported this action. Strong words were continually uttered by Church leaders disavowing even a hint of approval for this enfranchisement. You know the rest.
2. Men must give up their demand that women live within the narrow role society had proscribed for them and accept that women were not mere chattel, but free to enter into agreements of Sister-Wifehood. To that end, women must throw off their shackles and embrace the idea of equality with men. However, it was incumbent on Church leaders to be seen as strongly condemning this idea and declaring it as heretical for LDS women to not be subject to rule by men. Very crafty this point, for it was vital that society change its attitudes, but not so much that polygamist husbands would eventually be surrounded by a harem which would be both unruly and unmanageable.
3. The idea that marriage is an inalienable civil right must be fostered and a precedent set that such a right to marriage cannot be restricted to a single class of people, such as one man and one woman. The right needed to be established that polygamists cannot be singled out as being excluded from having their marriages validated by law. To accomplish this, there needed to be some other group of people put forth that had been denied the right to have their marriages validated by law. Two prime groups were considered, beastialists and homosexuals. Homosexuals had shown themselves to be the most viable group in seeking recognition, so they were given the nod and Church leaders went into overdrive to distance themselves from this idea. Some went a little overboard and said things embarrassing for the Church, but that did not dampen the ultimate success of the polygamy reintroduction mission. Homosexuals had their agenda and Mormons had their own. Both have thus far benefited from the expansion of the definition of marriage as a right than cannot be denied based on group affiliation.
What will the future hold for the Mormon Agenda? I will leave it up to the gentle readers to add their thoughts to this thread.
As you know, the LDS Church began practicing polygamy in its early days and continued up until the first part of the 20th Century. The finishing blow to polygamy came when President Joseph F. Smith declared the LDS Temple to be off limits to practicing polygamists and so it seemed like it spelled the end for polygamy. The forces of traditional marriage had won and the Mormon passageway to the highest degree of exaltation seemed forever closed, or at least from the multiple wives entry way.
Or had it?
That is where clever social engineering and a knowledge of how to get things done entered the picture. Let’s call it the Mormon Agenda.
The question was how to enable the practice of polygamy once again. Surely the forces behind traditional marriage would thwart the reintroduction to polygamy, so the solution was simple: To undermine the forces of traditional marriage in such a way that it could encompass the Celestial blessing of polygamy, yet at the same time to remove from the LDS Church any suspicion of complicity in that undermining.
How best to achieve the end of traditional marriage? By altering the fundamental assumptions underlying its foundation of course! Three primary objectives where outlined:
1. Introduction of the idea that all people were entitled to civil rights under the law. It was noted that a whole class of citizens with less than white and therefore delightsome skin were deprived of their civil liberties by both law and practice. This disenfranchisement must end but the world must never know the Church supported this action. Strong words were continually uttered by Church leaders disavowing even a hint of approval for this enfranchisement. You know the rest.
2. Men must give up their demand that women live within the narrow role society had proscribed for them and accept that women were not mere chattel, but free to enter into agreements of Sister-Wifehood. To that end, women must throw off their shackles and embrace the idea of equality with men. However, it was incumbent on Church leaders to be seen as strongly condemning this idea and declaring it as heretical for LDS women to not be subject to rule by men. Very crafty this point, for it was vital that society change its attitudes, but not so much that polygamist husbands would eventually be surrounded by a harem which would be both unruly and unmanageable.
3. The idea that marriage is an inalienable civil right must be fostered and a precedent set that such a right to marriage cannot be restricted to a single class of people, such as one man and one woman. The right needed to be established that polygamists cannot be singled out as being excluded from having their marriages validated by law. To accomplish this, there needed to be some other group of people put forth that had been denied the right to have their marriages validated by law. Two prime groups were considered, beastialists and homosexuals. Homosexuals had shown themselves to be the most viable group in seeking recognition, so they were given the nod and Church leaders went into overdrive to distance themselves from this idea. Some went a little overboard and said things embarrassing for the Church, but that did not dampen the ultimate success of the polygamy reintroduction mission. Homosexuals had their agenda and Mormons had their own. Both have thus far benefited from the expansion of the definition of marriage as a right than cannot be denied based on group affiliation.
What will the future hold for the Mormon Agenda? I will leave it up to the gentle readers to add their thoughts to this thread.
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Re: The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
moksha wrote:The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
As you know, the LDS Church began practicing polygamy in its early days and continued up until the first part of the 20th Century. The finishing blow to polygamy came when President Joseph F. Smith declared the LDS Temple to be off limits to practicing polygamists...
Speaking as a gentile, gentle reader, it's a brilliant hypothesis, moksha! It's all becoming clear now. President Joseph F. Smith must have had this plan from the beginning (prophecy from God?).
Just like the Great Wall of China and medieval cathedrals, a plan was made and generations would see it through.
Critics and naysayers might cry "just another conspiracy theory", but your logic is unassailable.
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Mormons had one of the first "alternative Lifestyle" in the USA. Even before the "gay liberation front".
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Is polygamy prohibited by the US Constitution?
Does the Federal Government have the right/ability to prohibit polygamy?
If the Fed cannot declare marriage as between a man and woman, then they certainly may not limit the quantity....and for that matter, by what law can they prevent a man from marrying a footstool?
Does the Federal Government have the right/ability to prohibit polygamy?
If the Fed cannot declare marriage as between a man and woman, then they certainly may not limit the quantity....and for that matter, by what law can they prevent a man from marrying a footstool?
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Re: The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
subgenius wrote:Is polygamy prohibited by the US Constitution?
Does the Federal Government have the right/ability to prohibit polygamy?
If the Fed cannot declare marriage as between a man and woman, then they certainly may not limit the quantity....and for that matter, by what law can they prevent a man from marrying a footstool?
It's very difficult to get a footstool to sign a marriage certificate. A writing desk might manage it (yes, that's a pun).
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Is a man marrying a footstool really a big problem or threat to society?
Who cares?
Who cares?
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Quasimodo wrote:
It's very difficult to get a footstool to sign a marriage certificate. A writing desk might manage it (yes, that's a pun).
Bwahaha
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Re: The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
just me wrote:Is a man marrying a footstool really a big problem or threat to society?
Who cares?
I would imagine that man to be a nut and needs help. He might decide to elope with my davenport and that would be a problem.
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LittleNipper wrote:just me wrote:Is a man marrying a footstool really a big problem or threat to society?
Who cares?
I would imagine that man to be a nut and needs help. He might decide to elope with my davenport and that would be a problem.
It depends on whether or not your davenport likes the guy. We have a Berkey & Gay dining room suite that my best friend's wife is in love with. She is not getting it regardless of how the table, chairs and sideboard feel about her.
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Re: The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda
subgenius wrote:Is polygamy prohibited by the US Constitution?
Does the Federal Government have the right/ability to prohibit polygamy?
If the Fed cannot declare marriage as between a man and woman, then they certainly may not limit the quantity....and for that matter, by what law can they prevent a man from marrying a footstool?
Here's the problem, 'marriage' is a process for gaining a piece of paper that grants people legal access to certain things that people without that piece of paper cannot get. That's it, that's all 'marriage' really is.
If a man wants to cohabit with another man and exist as a betrothed couple, they can.
If a man wants to cohabit with several women at the same time and exist as a betrothed polygamous group, they can.
If a man wants to cohabit with a footstool and exist as a betrothed couple, well, that can happen now also.
So, the Mormon agenda is about stopping access to legal rights for gay couples (I think they frown on furniturcest as well) as they believe God doesn't want them to have those rights. (If God didn't want to allow people to be homosexual He wouldn't have created same sex attraction).
Now the Mormon Church has had its ass kicked on Prop 8, including a massive negative reaction from it's income stream, it has capitulated on its strategy of fighting against same sex legislation and is now treading a softer, inclusionary style of strategy aimed at keeping homosexuals in the Church and not offending members who pay tithing. If it wasn't about maintaining income then the Church would be fighting same sex legislation tooth and nail all over the planet. Why isn't it doing so? Because that would negatively affect the fiscal bottom line. Church decisions are best understood when viewed through the lens of finical impact.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)