I Wonder?

[_Brackite]

I also don’t know what it was about this particular case that demanded as much media attention as it got.

This particular case should not have gotten as much mainstream media attention as it got. It wasn't about race until the mainstream media made it about race. There have already been a few small riots in California over this case that happened in Florida. Zimmerman has already been found not guilty, and if the people in Florida do not like the 'stand your ground' law, then they need to contact their Governor and lawmakers there. There are a lot more important issues to discuss now such as the NSA, IRS, immigration reform and climate change.

[_beastie]

This particular case should not have gotten as much mainstream media attention as it got. It wasn't about race until the mainstream media made it about race. There have already been a few small riots in California over this case that happened in Florida. Zimmerman has already been found not guilty, and if the people in Florida do not like the 'stand your ground' law, then they need to contact their Governor and lawmakers there. There are a lot more important issues to discuss now such as the NSA, IRS, immigration reform and climate change.

I think it all started when GZ wasn't even charged with any crime at all. The police just seemed willing to accept whatever he said with little investigation, at least if we believe some of the witnesses who were barely questioned.

At the very least, when someone kills another person, there ought to be a strenuous investigation.

Whether or not one supports SYG, I think reasonable people would agree that it opens the door to vigilantism, and due caution needs to be exercised as a result. Each case should be strenuously investigated, otherwise it opens the door to the perfect murder. Just behave provocatively towards someone away from witnesses, either start a fight or goad them into starting a fight, let them land a couple of good punches so you have some wounds, and shoot 'em. I'm not saying that's what GZ did, but I am saying that being casual about the application of SYG invites just such a situation.

[_ldsfaqs]

Looks like I was right on almost all accounts (assuming you aren't just making sh&* up, like you normally do, regarding item 4)

by the way, what was your MOS?

Actually you were pretty much WRONG on all count's.... because you just ignored the details to make your judgment. For example, Law Enforcement is more than just "police", thus your claim that I haven't been involved in Law Enforcement is false. I've also worked with the Police and the courts, so that's being involved in Law Enforcement buddy. Same for your other judgments, false as usual. Little truth to lie.

Oh, and I've already shown who I am to another liberal liar like you on this forum who tried to claim I wasn't who I said I was, hadn't done what I said I did. It is YOU people who make crap up. I only state facts. Just like the Trayvon case. The facts showed no evidence of racism, you guy's make racism up. On and on....

I was Security Forces/Infantry....

[_schreech]

Actually you were pretty much WRONG on all count's....

So you don't live in utah? You do own a gun?

because you just ignored the details to make your judgment. For example, Law Enforcement is more than just "police", thus your claim that I haven't been involved in Law Enforcement is false. I've also worked with the Police and the courts, so that's being involved in Law Enforcement buddy. Same for your other judgments, false as usual. Little truth to lie.

What laws have you ever enforced? The laws of gravity and godwin don't count....

Oh, and I've already shown who I am to another liberal liar like you on this forum who tried to claim I wasn't who I said I was, hadn't done what I said I did. It is YOU people who make crap up. I only state facts. Just like the Trayvon case. The facts showed no evidence of racism, you guy's make racism up. On and on....

people like ME...I think its funny that you think I am a liberal. I just think you (an only YOU) are an idiot and I don't assume other intelligent conservatives are as mentally challenged as yourself...I assume that when you say "fact" you mean "bullsh## that you pull out of your arse" (just take a look at the actual crime rates in AU instead of the made up graphs you latched onto because they happen to have been posted on freerepublic). You and people like you are the reason conservatives get a bad name....Ill informed, bigoted sheep who happily believe anything their conservative talking heads tell them to believe...

I was Security Forces/Infantry....

MOS #?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

You are 100% wrong, and schreech is 100% right. I am boggled by the fact that you have distorted my words to mean something entirely other than they meant.

I never said, or even slightly insinuated, that GZ wanted to rape TM. I said that TM may have been afraid that GZ was following him because he was a sexual predator who intended him harm. We know this idea came up because Rachel Jeantell said it.

Are you actually suggesting that it is completely crazy that a teenage boy being followed by some "creepy" man may think that man is a sexual predator???????

Then why in the world would you say that TM probably thought GZ was a rapist/sexual predator?

Holy cow, woman. Do you not understand the words you write actually carry a meaning that means what they mean, and not some sort of nuanced Liberal position that doesn't make any sense whatsoever?

You stated that TM probably thought GZ was a sexual predator vis a vis what's-her-face. I just cannot believe you even typed that. It's so beyond offensive that I can't even express how offensive it is.

You should apologize for that one.

- Doc

[_beastie]

You are 100% wrong, and schreech is 100% right. I am boggled by the fact that you have distorted my words to mean something entirely other than they meant.

I never said, or even slightly insinuated, that GZ wanted to rape TM. I said that TM may have been afraid that GZ was following him because he was a sexual predator who intended him harm. We know this idea came up because Rachel Jeantell said it.

Are you actually suggesting that it is completely crazy that a teenage boy being followed by some "creepy" man may think that man is a sexual predator???????

Then why in the world would you say that TM probably thought GZ was a rapist/sexual predator?

Holy cow, woman. Do you not understand the words you write actually carry a meaning that means what they mean, and not some sort of nuanced Liberal position that doesn't make any sense whatsoever?

You stated that TM probably thought GZ was a sexual predator vis a vis what's-her-face. I just cannot believe you even typed that. It's so beyond offensive that I can't even express how offensive it is.

You should apologize for that one.

- Doc

Are we speaking the same language? Are you just trolling me?

[_ldsfaqs]

So you don't live in utah? You do own a gun?

1. I've lived outside of Utah my whole life up until a year ago, thus YOUR POINT to try and claim me being from Utah that it "means something" is invalid.

2. I've also owned guns my entire life up until I moved here a year ago (sold them for extra money). Thus YOUR POINT such as that I don't have experience with guns "or whatever" is invalid.

So yes, pretty much your every claim is false to what your actual points of making them were.

MOS #?

It's been 20 years, I don't remember it anymore. Brain has been used for more important and harder things since then.
I'm sure I could google it, but it's not important.

[_Brackite]

I think it all started when GZ wasn't even charged with any crime at all. The police just seemed willing to accept whatever he said with little investigation, at least if we believe some of the witnesses who were barely questioned.

At the very least, when someone kills another person, there ought to be a strenuous investigation.

Yes, but this case did not become about race until the mainstream media made this about race.
See for example Bcspace's thread here: NBC admits doctoring Zimmerman 911 call

[_beastie]

Yes, but this case did not become about race until the mainstream media made this about race.
See for example Bcspace's thread here: NBC admits doctoring Zimmerman 911 call

Yeah, why in the world would anyone even think, for one moment, that maybe the reason GZ wasn't even charged or seriously investigated was because his victim was a black male? I mean, nothing in our society would ever give anyone cause to think such a wild thing.

[_EAllusion]

This particular case should not have gotten as much mainstream media attention as it got. It wasn't about race until the mainstream media made it about race. There have already been a few small riots in California over this case that happened in Florida. Zimmerman has already been found not guilty, and if the people in Florida do not like the 'stand your ground' law, then they need to contact their Governor and lawmakers there. There are a lot more important issues to discuss now such as the NSA, IRS, immigration reform and climate change.

I think it all started when GZ wasn't even charged with any crime at all.

This is a story that went viral through the internet before mainstream media got a hold of it.

Here is the RT thread on it before it hit mainstream press:

http://vine.rottentomatoes.com/vine/sho ... =zimmerman

The title is, "Apparently it's ok for all white people to shoot black teens now, not just cops..." which tells you all you need to know about why this quickly went viral. And yes, the initial outrage is over how Zimmerman's killing of Martin was so pathetically investigated by the police. Brackite's assertion that the mainstream media made it about race is grossly wrong.

Stories like this peculate through the internet all the time. Messed up criminal justice stories from Florida is its own internet genre. The only thing strange here is just how much it was seized upon by more traditional media like cable news. It clearly was already a racial story by that point.