The Mormon and Homosexual Agenda

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just me wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:God gives us that right. And a warped society demonstrates what happens when that right is disregarded.


According to you and your version of god.

You cannot force your religious beliefs onto others and have them encoded in law.

Your whole rant about equal marriage leading to body piercings and tats is just hilarious. Where does Jesus say anything about those things being immoral or wicked?

Heterosexual sex is no more or less hedonistic than homosexual sex. Every human on the planet seeks for pleasure. It is a survival technique. Everyone I've ever come across is equally hedonistic. Just because someone derives pleasure in a different way than you doesn't mean their way is wrong and your way is right.

Society has every right to reward good behavior patterns and ignore those patterns that lead to disorder. It is ridiculous to reward all forms of behavior. God is the Lord of order and not disorder.
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LittleNipper wrote:Society has every right to reward good behavior patterns and ignore those patterns that lead to disorder. It is ridiculous to reward all forms of behavior. God is the Lord of order and not disorder.


Same-sex marriage does not lead to disorder, nor does it harm you or interfere with your rights.

According to YOU god is orderly. You can't prove your god even exists and you can't impose your version of god on anyone else.
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just me wrote:Same-sex marriage does not lead to disorder,

correct! it is most certainly the result of a disorder....or genetic defect, take your pick...science supports either.
just me wrote:nor does it harm you or interfere with your rights.

wrong! it now offers tax implications that i, as a taxpayer, subsidize.

just me wrote:According to YOU god is orderly. You can't prove your god even exists and you can't impose your version of god on anyone else.

just because you choose to not believe in the evidence does not meant that God has not been "proven".
But your disregard for history is admirable...history has been so kind to atheists....and Christians have never eventually had enough of attitudes like yours and started burning stakes....wise choice you have made.
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just me wrote:Same-sex marriage does not lead to disorder, nor does it harm you or interfere with your rights.


I must contradict you there. Homosexuality leads to the disorder. Why? Because homosexual people of the LDS leadership are not so easily manipulable. Because homosexual people fight for their civil rights. And this mixes up the LDS order. What particularly tackles gender roles.
The man shall be the head of the woman, shall decide. The woman shall obey. If now two men ...?
This does not spare in the eyes of the overly pious LDS leaders (but at all child abuse or violence in the marriage, however, is allowed).
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Jutta wrote:
just me wrote:Same-sex marriage does not lead to disorder, nor does it harm you or interfere with your rights.


I must contradict you there. Homosexuality leads to the disorder. Why? Because homosexual people of the LDS leadership are not so easily manipulable. Because homosexual people fight for their civil rights. And this mixes up the LDS order. What particularly tackles gender roles.
The man shall be the head of the woman, shall decide. The woman shall obey. If now two men ...?
This does not spare in the eyes of the overly pious LDS leaders (but at all child abuse or violence in the marriage, however, is allowed).

A Christian is to love his wife as Christ loves His church. The Christian is to be the spiritual leader of his family.
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LittleNipper wrote:A Christian is to love his wife as Christ loves His church.
A Christian ... and ... his wife ...
A Christian is a male, isn't he?



LittleNipper wrote:The Christian is to be the spiritual leader of his family.
The Christian You referred is a
- male (OK)
- female (doesn't fit to his)
- gay male (OK)
- lesbian female (doesn't fit to his again)
- transgender (he or she ??)
- third gender - some anthropologists and sociologists have described fourth, fifth, and even some genders - (***)
- any combination of above (a conference of doctors may help)
... is to be the spiritual leader?


by the way
in Croatian, Your sentences would be a little problematic.
They use the gender thing in conjugation.
The verb "am/are/is" depends on the speaker (subject).

Languages and religions sometimes are tricky...



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The Hijra of India are probably the most well known and populous third sex type in the modern world – Mumbai-based community health organisation The Humsafar Trust estimates there are between 5 and 6 million hijras in India. In different areas they are known as Aravani/Aruvani or Jogappa. Often (somewhat misleadingly) called eunuchs in English, they may be born intersex or apparently male, dress in feminine clothes and generally see themselves as neither men nor women. Only eight percent of hijras visiting Humsafar clinics are nirwaan (castrated). Indian photographer Dayanita Singh writes about her friendship with a Hijra, Mona Ahmed, and their two different societies' beliefs about gender: "When I once asked her if she would like to go to Singapore for a sex change operation, she told me, 'You really do not understand. I am the third sex, not a man trying to be a woman. It is your society's problem that you only recognise two sexes.'"

Aravanis—the Hijra "brides" of Aravan—mourn his/her/its death:
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more - transgendered Muay, Thai boxer:
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2nd century Roman copy of a Greek sculpture. The figure is Hermaphroditus, from which the word hermaphrodite is derived.
Here is his/her/its face. Not his/her/its genitals, or something nsfw by the way:
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LittleNipper wrote:A Christian is to love his wife as Christ loves His church. The Christian is to be the spiritual leader of his family.


But I saw in my own Family and the Family of others, that this is often abused by men, especially in the LDS church.
Even in the sexual part (rape and child abuse).
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ludwigm wrote:A Christian is to love his wife as Christ loves His church.
A Christian ... and ... his wife ...
A Christian is a male, isn't he?[/quote]

It is correct! In the Christian, as in the Jewish or Islamic religion; women are the PROPERTY of the man. His POSSESSION which HE can use any time.
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ludwigm wrote:
Jutta wrote:A Christian ... and ... his wife ...
A Christian is a male, isn't he?


It is correct! In the Christian, as in the Jewish or Islamic religion; women are the PROPERTY of the man. His POSSESSION which HE can use any time.


I do not believe that a woman is property. The woman is like fine crystal or china. And the man is a crock, jug or the mixing bowl. Women are best when they are supporting men in their decisions and running the household. I have nothing against a woman working --- being a wife & mother is a career and not an easy one. When women could stay home, the PTA was much better attended, children were better behaved, hospitals had more volunteers and neighbors were much better acquainted. The husband doesn't live for himself! He is the guardian of his wife and family. He owes her his life and protection. The Mormons have many things wrong and one of them is this odd belief that marriage continues for eternity. Mormons imagine that God has a wife that no one hears anything about. One can only wonder that Mormon husbands think their job is to rule the roost and that's it. Such may live with a Zeus mentality of God --- with the "happy" expectation that is where they are headed (not a Christian ideal at all). And it seems to me that you have never heard the term JEWISH Princess.
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LittleNipper wrote: Women are best when they are supporting men in their decisions and running the household.



Old fashioned!

Shall she also Support him, if he act like an idiot, waste money of the family or says what kind of terrific guy he is?
Remeber tis case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Hacking

I Quote from the article:

Lori Kay Soares Hacking (December 31, 1976 – July 19, 2004) was a Salt Lake City, Utah, woman who was killed by her husband, Mark Hacking, in 2004. (...)
Mark Hacking told police she had left home early for a customary jog in the Memory Grove and City Creek Canyon area northeast of downtown Salt Lake, but had not returned home or arrived at work. A woman who said she had seen Lori near the grove that day later withdrew her claim.
According to some family members, Hacking was about five weeks pregnant when she vanished. She had planned to move to North Carolina, where her husband had said he was to study at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill medical school, having recently graduated from college. However, police say Mark had never completed an undergraduate degree at the University of Utah as he led family and friends to believe, and the medical school had no record of him having ever applied (...)
On June 6, 2005, Mark Hacking was sentenced 6 years to life in prison, the maximum the judge could give under Utah law. Under Utah's system of indeterminate criminal sentences, first-degree felony murder brings a mandatory five years to life, but Hacking's minimum is increased to six years because he used a firearm. (..)


Mark Hacking killed his pregnant wife because she wanted to make his lie bring to the public. She wanted to say the truth about this loser. She had to die therefore because she had not supported her loser of husband. He was sentenced to six years in prison. Utah is really very friendly towards murderers and child abuser!
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