Always Singular God Plural Persons

[_Mittens]

Gen 1:
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Gen 11:
5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6 And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. 7 Come, let [b] Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”

Isa 48
16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me." The speaker here is the LORD himself

Duet 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:" Here the word ' one ' is ECHOD in Hebrew. meaning composite unity. or plural ones.

Gen 2:"24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." same word is used here, ECHOD


2 Nephi 31:
21 And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.


Alma 11:
44 Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but everything shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.

Mormon 7:
7 And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.

The Testimony of Three Witnesses
And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God . Amen.
Oliver Cowdery
David Whitmer
Martin Harris

Wrong teaching

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).

http://www.Bible.ca/trinity/trinity-one ... -echad.htm

[_jordon3]

Yes the Mormon doctrine is constantly deceiving and changing. The God of the Bible is the same yesterday today and forever. According to the context of the Bible there is only one God in the universe and has always been only one God.. Do Mormons ever ask them self that if their god is an exalted man....where did man come from in the first place. They don't seem to stop and contemplate these things. And that is why people say it is a cult because they never have sensible realistic answers to questions . They believe is a completely different Jesus than the on described in the Bible and hence most people consider Mormon are actually anti Christ

[_maklelan]

Yes the Mormon doctrine is constantly deceiving and changing. The God of the Bible is the same yesterday today and forever.

So he never became flesh? He was never exalted or brought low? He never repented or got angry? Your Bible might have something to say about that.

According to the context of the Bible there is only one God in the universe and has always been only one God..

That's not true at all, even if you do try to assert it's the "context" rather than what the Bible actually says that matters. Other gods are mentioned numerous times. Deut 32:8 even has God deliver the nations of the earth to the other gods for their direct rule, with Israel going to YHWH (that's in the original version, though, not the translation you have based on a later changed text). You're begging the question if you just say scripture X is wrong because scripture Y says something different.

Do Mormons ever ask them self that if their god is an exalted man....where did man come from in the first place.

Turtles all the way down?

They don't seem to stop and contemplate these things.

Oh. . . Darn.

And that is why people say it is a cult because they never have sensible realistic answers to questions .

Like how the hypostatic union works, or why we should believe in a talking donkey?

They believe is a completely different Jesus than the on described in the Bible and hence most people consider Mormon are actually anti Christ

Actually formal and extensive third-party research has shown that the majority of mainstream Christians consider Mormons to be Christians (here). The only group that swung the other way was white Evangelical Protestants. Imagine that.

[_Mittens]

Sounds like maklelan thinks the Book of Mormon teaches heresy


Moroni 8:18 For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity.


Mormon9:9 For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing?

and why do you mention white ??

I would say Black Evangelic would be in a higher number disavowing Mormonism as a Pagan Religion

http://youtu.be/ZUMnI7KO2lg Like this tabernacle Choir

[_jordon3]

Yes Mittens you are so right, the essence of God is unchangeable.There never was a time when He was not: there never will come a time when He shall cease to be. God has neither evolved, grown, nor improved. All that He is today, He has ever been and ever will be. I am the Lord, I change not. (Mal 3:6)

[_Tobin]

I have a theory. Jason15 and Mittens are related. Brother and sister maybe?

[_Mittens]

I have a theory. Jason15 and Mittens are related. Brother and sister maybe?

Why would you think that Tobin ?? I'm 66 years old , I'm sure from a different generation than Jason15


http://youtu.be/-qyvdHXoKVs I was in my twenties when this song was popular

[_Tobin]

I have a theory. Jason15 and Mittens are related. Brother and sister maybe?

Why would you think that Tobin ?? I'm 66 years old , I'm sure from a different generation than Jason15


http://youtu.be/-qyvdHXoKVs I was in my twenties when this song was popular

So you think Jason15 is 15 years old too? If so, I agree.

[_jordon3]

And Yes Mittens your are right there is only ONE TRUE GOD.
The Bible tells us that there is only one God in all existence (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8). However, it also mentions "other gods." For example there is Adrammelech and Anammelech (2 Kings 17:31), Asherah (1 Kings 18:19), Baal (Judges 3:7), Chemosh (Num. 21:29), Dagon (1 Sam. 5:2), Molech (Lev. 18:21; 20:2-5), etc etc etc. The Bible is not contradicting itself. When the Bible speaks of other gods it is speaking of "false gods" that have no true existence. Gal. 4:8 says, "Formerly, WHEN YOU DID NOT KNOW GOD, you were slaves to those who by nature are NOT gods." See also, Isaiah 37:19 and Jeremiah 2:11. God tells us that he alone is the true God and that all of the invented gods of man do not exist except in their own minds. So, we can see that the Bible is not contradicting itself regarding how many gods there are in existence. There is only one.

Note: in the verses in Genesis that have God saying "Let us make..., Let us go down . . . , etc." are clues to the Trinitarian nature of God. God is a Trinity of persons: a Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. There are not three Gods, but one. There are those who insist that the Trinity is polytheistic. But it is not. Trinitarians believe in a single being who is God.

I guess the Book of Mormon does teach heresy....2 Nephi 31, Alma 11, Mormon 7 of course we know they will take it out of context and say some thing ridiculous like one in purpose or something equally out of context, even thought that is a far stretch for the theme and context of the Bible as a whole. One God means One God........The Holy God is not the author of confusion and would say purpose if that was His intent.

[_jordon3]

Mittens the sad thing is many Christians don't have a clue what Mormons believe hence the polls. Thank the Lord this seems to be changing rapidly with the internet . I have talked with many secular friends and they have even heard that Mormonism is a cult. It actually surprised me what they have heard. I think the whole Romney situation opened people's eyes and they started to check things out. Besides there are too many youtubes that have a lot of information if one is searching. Of course you have to way what your read and see but it does open one's eyes for further research. Heck the Mormons are just realizing it is useless to go door to door as people are becoming more aware....I believe the latest if that they will use Facebook to entice people.