Why do Mormons want to be called Christian?

[_LittleNipper]

Mormons wish to be called "Christian" for the very same social reasons homosexuals wish declare such unions "marriage."

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Mormons wish to be called "Christian" for the very same social reasons homosexuals wish declare such unions "marriage."

Yeah, and dumb, inbred rednecks oppose same-ex unions for the very same social reasons fundies can't admit Mormons are Christian.


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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

[_maklelan]

Mormons wish to be called "Christian" for the very same social reasons homosexuals wish declare such unions "marriage."

No, Mormons wish to be called Christians because they are Christians and always have been. This fundie rejection of their Christian identity is of a more recent sectarianism. Homosexuals want their relationships legalized and viewed as equal by the government. Latter-day Saints want others to stop telling them their religious self-identity is illegitimate.

[_LittleNipper]

Mormons wish to be called "Christian" for the very same social reasons homosexuals wish declare such unions "marriage."

No, Mormons wish to be called Christians because they are Christians and always have been. This fundie rejection of their Christian identity is of a more recent sectarianism. Homosexuals want their relationships legalized and viewed as equal by the government. Latter-day Saints want others to stop telling them their religious self-identity is illegitimate.

The Mormons didn't even exist until the early 19th century, so what "always" are you speaking of? If Mormon is a "Christian" denomination, then "Moslems" are "Christian." They worship the same God (according to them0. They believe "Jesus" was a prophet. They pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe. And they have another book...........................

[_The Erotic Apologist]

The Mormons didn't even exist until the early 19th century, so what "always" are you speaking of? If Mormon is a "Christian" denomination, then "Moslems" are "Christian." They worship the same God (according to them0. They believe "Jesus" was a prophet. They pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe. And they have another book...........................

Yeah, and Lutherans didn't exist until after 1521. So what.

Hint: The Mormon Church's real name doesn't have "Mormon" in it.


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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

[_maklelan]

The Mormons didn't even exist until the early 19th century,

Protestantism didn't exist until the 16th century. Your brand of fundamentalism didn't exist until the 20th century.

so what "always" are you speaking of?

The "always" of their existence.

If Mormon is a "Christian" denomination, then "Moslems" are "Christian." They worship the same God (according to them0.

Utter and complete nonsense. You know as well as every other adult who can walk erect that neither Mormons nor Muslims believe their perspective on deity is the same.

They believe "Jesus" was a prophet.

Unlike Mormons, who believe Jesus was and remains the Son of God and the Savior of humanity. I keep pointing this out and you guys keep flagrantly ignoring it. Why so dishonest?

They pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe.

So do you. You don't believe Jesus when he says to cut off your hand if it engages in sin, or when he says to abandon your family. You don't believe Joshua when he says the sun stood still in the sky. You don't believe any of the prophets who held that the earth was flat and the heavens were a solid dome suspending the waters of heaven over the earth. You don't believe Deut 32:8 when it says that God gave the gods their positions over the nations, giving Israel to YHWH. There are hundreds of things the Bible says that you just won't believe.

And they have another book...........................

For shame. The Samaritans said the same thing about the Jews who refused to obey Deuteronomy's command not to add or take away from God's law. The Jews said the same thing about Christians who added their own books. You stand in a long line of sectarians gnashing their teeth at other people.

[Guest]

The Mormons didn't even exist until the early 19th century, so what "always" are you speaking of? If Mormon is a "Christian" denomination, then "Moslems" are "Christian." They worship the same God (according to them0. They believe "Jesus" was a prophet. They pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe. And they have another book...........................

Yeah, and Lutherans didn't exist until after 1521. So what.

Hint: The Mormon Church's real name doesn't have "Mormon" in it.


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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

Luther didn't originally wish to break from the Roman Catholic church. However, he saw the "modern" corruptions in that church as he studied the Bible. And the Bible doesn't need the Book of Mormon to present the Gospel message, or display the LORDSHIP of Christ. Luther was only a leader of a church trying to return to its HISTORIC BIBLICAL roots.

Mormons see Jesus as a brother being to themselves and Satan. They do not see Jesus as fully God and the only one with the Father, but as another god, as they intend themselves to become. Oddly, Moslems see heaven as a place with many virgins for their pleasure. There is more than a bit of a similarity there I think. Could they too believe in spirit babies and worlds of their own making...

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Luther didn't originally wish to break from the Roman Catholic church. However, he saw the "modern" corruptions in that church as he studied the Bible. And the Bible doesn't need the Book of Mormon to present the Gospel message, or display the LORDSHIP of Christ.

None of this matters if you can't provide compelling proof that A) god exists, and B) that its the god of the Bible.

You're very lucky god doesn't exist, otherwise you'd be headed straight to hell. No 72 virgins for you, Little Nipper!

In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every—one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."
—Quran sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayah17


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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

[_LittleNipper]

Luther didn't originally wish to break from the Roman Catholic church. However, he saw the "modern" corruptions in that church as he studied the Bible. And the Bible doesn't need the Book of Mormon to present the Gospel message, or display the LORDSHIP of Christ.

None of this matters if you can't provide compelling proof that A) god exists, and B) that its the god of the Bible.

You're very lucky god doesn't exist, otherwise you'd be headed straight to hell. No 72 virgins for you, Little Nipper!

In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every—one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."
—Quran sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayah17


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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

I believe God exists because I exist. I believe in the God of the Bible because such like You exist.

[_Tobin]

I believe God exists because I exist. I believe in the God of the Bible because such like You exist.

Well, I believe Santa Claus exists because I exist. I believe in the Santa Claus of the Christmas Carols because such like You exist.