Is the God of Mormonism the God of the Bible

[_jordon3]

The basic difference between Mormonism and Biblical Christianity is that Mormons worship a different god than the God of the Bible. The LDS church teaches that their is a god of flesh and bone, who was once a sinful man, who by good works and faithfulness to the Mormon religion became a god.

However, the God of the Bible is Spirit, and is self-existent, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, eternal, and the only Almighty God (Isa. 43:10-11, 44:6, 45:21-22, 1 Tim. 1:17, 6:16, Col. 1:15, John 4:24, Jer.23:24, Mal. 3:6, Psa. 102:26-27). The God of the Bible is spirit and was never a man, (Num. 23:19) therefore the Mormon man-god certainly is not the God of the Bible. The Bible tells us that God created man; man did not create God.

The Bible gives us a place to start in time when God created the earth and the universe. Mormonism does not. God says in the Bible that there was a time when the universe did not exist nor anything material or physical.(Isa. 43:13) God reveals to us in the Bible that there was no God before Him. He created it all, time, space, matter and all the different kinds of life at a point in time which was the beginning of the Universe. God said He created the universe for His glory, and the earth for man..

According to Mormonism the universe actually has no beginning and it assumes like the false theory of evolution that all things always existed. It teaches, as does evolution, that man can evolve upward into a higher and higher being. This teaching in the LDS church is called "eternal progression." In other words man can go from one existence to another and through "eternal progression" upwards to a greater existence.


Mormonism does teach that their god created the heavens and the earth, but that is an impossible claim seeing that they believe their god is a man who became a god.

Jason, You didn't answer my question here. My question here is: "How is the God of the Book of Mormon different from the God of the Bible??" You have not quoted from the Book of Mormon on this thread yet.

Here is a link to the Book of Mormon online:


http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/Mormon/browse.html

Jason15 states: Brackite why would I answer the question? There is no purpose in doing so. I have no interest in quoting from the Book of Mormon when is so obviously contradicts Mormon doctrine.

[_Fence Sitter]

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References:

(1) Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, V7, page 333.
(2) Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, Vol. 5, pages 613-614.
(3) Orson Pratt, The Seer, page 23.
(4) Ibid., page 132.
(5) Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, page 93.
(6) Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, Salt Lake City, 1958, p.104.

None of these sources are considered official sources of doctrine.

These were men merely expressing their opinions.

Jason please explain how doctrine is determined in Mormonism. Unless you can do so, any complaints you have about Mormon doctrine are uninformed.

[_jordon3]

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References:

(1) Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, V7, page 333.
(2) Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, Vol. 5, pages 613-614.
(3) Orson Pratt, The Seer, page 23.
(4) Ibid., page 132.
(5) Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, page 93.
(6) Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, Salt Lake City, 1958, p.104.

None of these sources are considered official sources of doctrine.

These were men merely expressing their opinions.

Jason please explain how doctrine is determined in Mormonism. Unless you can do so, any complaints you have about Mormon doctrine are uninformed.

Jason15 states. Yes that is the standard Mormon answer. ie these are not official doctrines LOL...... Joseph Smith was the founder---- why would he teach such crap to his followers if it wasn't to be believed...same as the rest of them

[_jordon3]

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References:

(1) Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, V7, page 333.
(2) Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, Vol. 5, pages 613-614.
(3) Orson Pratt, The Seer, page 23.
(4) Ibid., page 132.
(5) Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, page 93.
(6) Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, Salt Lake City, 1958, p.104.

Fence Sitter states :None of these sources are considered official sources of doctrine.

These were men merely expressing their opinions.

Jason please explain how doctrine is determined in Mormonism. Unless you can do so, any complaints you have about Mormon doctrine are uninformed.

Jason15 states Who knows how official doctrine is determined in Mormonism...they don't even know.
Confusing, Vacillating, Befuddling and Constantly Adrift Official Mormon Church Doctrine on God.
Judging from the wild swings over time in official LDS Church doctrine on the supposed nature of God and humanity's supposed relationship to that God, it is evident that Mormonism's purported "prophets, seers and revelators" of God's allegedly "one and only true church" don't know what the hell they're talking about
Indeed, they seem to have missed the memo from Jesus:
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)
God Who?
Jesus What?
Holy Huh?

[_Fence Sitter]

Of course they are confusing, it is merely men expressing their own opinions.

[_jordon3]

Of course they are confusing, it is merely men expressing their own opinions.

The God spoken of in the Bible is not the author of confusion..... Buckle your seat Belt Fence sitter cause your man-made God , the Joseph Smith man-made God is just that----- in the imaginations of men.

Yes well Fence sitter your Mormon men expressing their "own" opinions and then teaching as official doctrine is absurd. And for you to try and pass it off as their own opinions is ridiculous.

How can you belief in an organization that can't seem to make their minds up about the core essentials of God. especially when it all stem from the man made God of Joseph Smith who fabricated the Book of Abraham no less.

And Mormons have the nerve to wonder why Biblical Christians don't consider Mormons Christian. This isn't rocket science!

[_sr1030]

How is the God of the Book of Mormon different from the God of the Bible??

I personally don't think they are very far apart in the view to God. What I do believe is that the God of the Book of Mormon is quite different than the God of Mormonism. The Book of Mormon contradicts the doctrine of Mormonism.

Book of Mormon: Alma 11:27-39, 44; 2 Nephi 31:21; Mormon 7:7; 3 Nephi 11:27 and the clear testimony of the three witnesses all teach "one God".

sr

[_Fence Sitter]

The God spoken of in the Bible is not the author of confusion.....

Yes because if he were there would be thousands of different religions claiming to know who he is. Oh waait...

Buckle your seat Belt Fence sitter cause your man-made God , the Joseph Smith man-made God is just that----- in the imaginations of men.

If you spent time reading you would know I agree that the Joseph Smith God is man made but you're too busy being sure you're right to really consider what anyone else is saying

Yes well Fence sitter your Mormon men expressing their "own" opinions and then teaching as official doctrine is absurd. And for you to try and pass it off as their own opinions is ridiculous.

Lol you can't tell me how Mormon's decide what is and is not doctrine but you are sure every quote you can cut and paste is official doctrine. Once again you really have me pegged wrong. I am a lot more critical of "my Mormon men" than you ever will be. If you would take some time to familiarize yourself with others views here you might know that. I have to ask.... do you realize you are posting on a board that is known for being very critical of Mormonism?

How can you belief in an organization that can't seem to make their minds up about the core essentials of God. especially when it all stem from the man made God of Joseph Smith who fabricated the Book of Abraham no less.

I concede your point and declare that all religions who can't make up their minds about God are null and void. Let me know when you get a consensus from Christians who God is, they have only been working on it for 2000 years. I also agree that Joseph Smith fabricated the Book of Abraham, but, in his defense, he based it on a fictional character.

And Mormons have the nerve to wonder why Biblical Christians don't consider Mormons Christian.

Mormons have a lot more nerve than just that. The Mormon Church is founded on the belief that it is Christ's one and only true Church here on earth with His full authority to act in His name here on earth, all the rest of you guys are just posers and wannabees. They also believe that God/Jesus Christ personally appeared to Joseph Smith and told him that. So while you claim Mormons ain't Christians, they claim God says you are wrong. Now THAT is a lot of nerve!!! Can you believe these guys? Pretending that they know what God says? Sheesh!!! I mean who believes that God ever showed up to someone and gave him instructions? Nonsense right?

This isn't rocket science!

No I think it is rocket surgery.

[_jordon3]

Fence Sitter I am happy to hear that your agree that the Joseph Smith's god is man made. My apology for not thinking you did, I am not telling your how Mormon's decide on doctrine...they can't seem to decide within themselves....
There appears to be just as many on here that are not critical of Mormonism.
All Christians faiths have the basic core belief the same... ie nature and essence of God....core essentials of God....
Yes Fence sitter you are absolutely correct the Mormon Church has it's nerve on the belief that it is Christ's one and only true Church here on earth with His full authority to act in His name here on earth. Again Buckle up and see the ever changing god of Mormonism.lol

[_Fence Sitter]

Fence Sitter I am happy to hear that your agree that the Joseph Smith's god is man made. My apology for not thinking you did, I am not telling your how Mormon's decide on doctrine...they can't seem to decide within themselves....

Then I suggest until you can figure out how and what they consider official doctrine that you stop trying to tell them what it is.

There appears to be just as many on here that are not critical of Mormonism.

More evidence that you simply do not read this board. This board is overwhelmingly critical of Mormonism.

All Christians faiths have the basic core belief the same... ie nature and essence of God....core essentials of God....

I assume then that all Christians are "True Scotsmen" too. Here is a chance to show you actually read and consider how people respond to you. Tell me how the term "True Scotsman" applies to the statement you just made. I am betting you ignore it.

Yes Fence sitter you are absolutely correct the Mormon Church has it's nerve on the belief that it is Christ's one and only true Church here on earth with His full authority to act in His name here on earth. Again Buckle up and see the ever changing god of Mormonism.lol

Imagine that, a group of religious people who think THEY KNOW what God wants! That's not something you see every day now is it?