Difference in Cultures - Do you understand what reality is?

[_Tarski]

Fair enough.

Abortion.

- Doc

You are begging a lot of important questions by referring to abortion as murder.
Personally I think I have fairly rational reasons for thinking that it is nothing of the sort.
Maybe that deserves a different thread.

As for the connection with blacks, you would have to provide objective evidence.
In passing let me just note that if liberals were really about creating a state of dependency in black or other minority populations then encouraging them to have more children than they could possibly afford would be a better strategy than promoting contraception and family planning. But they don't because they are not.

There is a quite robust connection between economic affluence and average number of children per family (and thus to birth control etc.) in a given society. Check out Partha Dasgupta's "Economics; A very short introduction" for a description of the known facts.

[_beastie]

Fair enough.

Abortion.

- Doc

You have to give us more than that. What about abortion is culturally different between black and white Americans? (It's probably best to keep the focus somewhat narrow instead of world-wide.)

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Are the WLs on this board comfortable with these kinds of generalizations?



If so, why is that? Where do these stereotypes come from, and why are they any different than any other stereotype?

- Doc

[_beastie]

Why won't you just answer the question? You have to provide more details. I don't even understand your primary point, other than that there are important differences in cultures. What are these differences? You wanted to start with abortion, well, then, explain those differences.

What about abortion is culturally different between black and white Americans?

[_Bazooka]

do you understand this is how Black culture is?

I grew up going to an elementary school that was 70% black, 30% white. I went to a mixed race high school; about 50/50. I dated several black girls and met their families. I served in the downtown LA mission; taught and baptized some who were black. Etc.

I'm not going to claim perfect knowledge, but I have enough experience to know with surety that liberals by and large have enslaved blacks and held them back from joining civilization. Many blacks will even privately admit that. But the mob and thug mentality they are forced to grow up with is too strong for most to escape it.

bcspace, why did you date someone who (at the time) wasn't able to be sealed in the Temple to you?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

That's a heck of a question, 'zook.

Mr. BCSpace... The platform is yours.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

neh

[_Analytics]

Why won't you just answer the question? You have to provide more details. I don't even understand your primary point, other than that there are important differences in cultures. What are these differences? You wanted to start with abortion, well, then, explain those differences.

What about abortion is culturally different between black and white Americans?

Since he refuses to answer the question, I'll do my best to infer his position from what he's said. In CamNC4Me's mind, as far as I can tell, allowing black women to decide for themselves whether or not to have an abortion constitutes white liberals murdering black babies (which makes as much sense as BCSpace's belief that unspecified liberal policies literally enslave blacks).

In contrast, it's my opinion that irrespective of whatever liberal policies exist in the United States, people are free to make the most of their lives and carve out their own destinies. Modern Americans are among the very freest of the free people who have ever existed throughout history.

But BCSpace and CamNC4Me apparently don't see modern blacks as free: the temptation to have abortions and become slaves to the welfare state are temptations that blacks are intrinsically too weak to withstand. Thus, if a black woman decides to have an abortion, it wasn't really her choice--it was murder committed by the white liberals.

[_beastie]

Since he refuses to answer the question, I'll do my best to infer his position from what he's said. In CamNC4Me's mind, as far as I can tell, allowing black women to decide for themselves whether or not to have an abortion constitutes white liberals murdering black babies (which makes as much sense as BCSpace's belief that unspecified liberal policies literally enslave blacks).

In contrast, it's my opinion that irrespective of whatever liberal policies exist in the United States, people are free to make the most of their lives and carve out their own destinies. Modern Americans are among the very freest of the free people who have ever existed throughout history.

But BCSpace and CamNC4Me apparently don't see modern blacks as free: the temptation to have abortions and become slaves to the welfare state are temptations that blacks are intrinsically too weak to withstand. Thus, if a black woman decides to have an abortion, it wasn't really her choice--it was murder committed by the white liberals.

That did seem to be the point cam was trying to make. The problem is that this position doesn't really make a statement about the differences between black and white culture, unless I'm missing the obvious.