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Bazooka wrote:A very big, very tall, watertight wall


That's very intriguing. Do you suppose the Great Wall of China could have been part of this watertight wall? Could Noah have ordered the construction of this very big, tall watertight wall after he became emperor of China?


We can see remnants of this wall in China, Northern England, parts of the Middle East and, up until some mindless vandals had it removed, in Germany. Obviously this wall was originally on the perimeter of the earth up until New Testament times, when the earth sphericalised (new word in the English dictionary, invented by me about a minute ago) and the continents shifted, the wall splintered leaving the fragments we can see today.
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Bazooka wrote:We can see remnants of this wall in China, Northern England, parts of the Middle East and, up until some mindless vandals had it removed, in Germany. Obviously this wall was originally on the perimeter of the earth up until New Testament times, when the earth sphericalised (new word in the English dictionary, invented by me about a minute ago) and the continents shifted, the wall splintered leaving the fragments we can see today.

I bet the giant wall on Skull Island is also part of the water wall built by 1st Chinese Emperor Noah to prevent the water from flowing off the flat Earth during the Great Flood.

Few people are aware that the wall on Skull Island extends all the way down to Universal Studios in Southern California. The photo below shows only a small part of this amazing structure built by 1st Chinese Emperor Noah.

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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
Bazooka wrote:We can see remnants of this wall in China, Northern England, parts of the Middle East and, up until some mindless vandals had it removed, in Germany. Obviously this wall was originally on the perimeter of the earth up until New Testament times, when the earth sphericalised (new word in the English dictionary, invented by me about a minute ago) and the continents shifted, the wall splintered leaving the fragments we can see today.

I bet the giant wall on Skull Island is also part of the water wall built by 1st Chinese Emperor Noah to prevent the water from flowing off the flat Earth during the Great Flood.

Few people are aware that the wall on Skull Island extends all the way down to Universal Studios in Southern California.

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It's obvious that the flat earth of old testament times would hold water like unto a dish. The world was not flat or round. Rather, like a pasta bowl.
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Quasimodo wrote:It's obvious that the flat earth of old testament times would hold water like unto a dish. The world was not flat or round. Rather, like a pasta bowl.

Brother Q, do you consider yourself to be a Pastafarian?
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:It's obvious that the flat earth of old testament times would hold water like unto a dish. The world was not flat or round. Rather, like a pasta bowl.

Brother Q, do you consider yourself to be a Pastafarian?


It's the only philosophy that makes sense.

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What other religion allows one to eat his God with a nice marinara sauce?

Matthew 26:26: While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.”

Matthew 26:27-28: And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

No pasta or sauce!
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Deuteronomy 31:1-30 Afterwards Moses tells them that his is 120 years old! He is no longer able to lead, for the Lord said that Moses shall not cross the Jordan River. The Lord himself will lead and will destroy the nations living there, Israel shall overcome them. Joshua is the new commander, as the Lord has instructed. The Lord will destroy the nations living in the land, just as he destroyed Sihon and Og, the kings of the Amorites. They are to be strong, courageous, and not be afraid of them! The Lord God will be with Israel. He will neither fail nor forsake.
Then Moses called for Joshua and said to him, as everyone watched, told him the very same thing.

Then Moses wrote out the laws he had already delivered to the people and gave them to the priests, the sons of Levi, who carried the Ark containing the Ten Commandments of the Lord. Moses also gave copies of the laws to the elders of Israel. The Lord commanded that these laws be read to all the people (men, women, children, and foreigners living in Israel) at the end of every seventh year—the Year of Release—at the Festival of Tabernacles, when all Israel would assemble before the Lord at the sanctuary. This is to hear the laws of God and to learn his will, so that they will reverence the Lord and obey his laws. They are to do this so that the little children who have not known these laws will hear them and learn how to revere the Lord as long as living in the Promised Land.”

14 The Lord said to Moses, that it is time for Moses to die, and to summon Joshua to come into the Tabernacle where God will give him his instructions. Moses and Joshua came and stood before the Lord. He appeared to them in a great cloud at the Tabernacle entrance, and said to Moses, that he is about to die and join his ancestors. Afterwards the people will begin worshiping foreign gods in the Promised Land. They will forget God and break the contract made with them. God will abandon them and withdraw from them, and they shall be destroyed. Terrible trouble will come upon them causing them to visualize that God is no longer with them. God will turn away from them because of their sins in worshiping other gods.

God tells Moses to write down the words of this song, and teach it to the people of Israel to warning. When God brought them into the land promised their ancestors—a land ‘flowing with milk and honey’—and when they have become fat and prosperous, and worship other gods and despise God, and great disasters come upon them, then this song will remind them of the reason for their woes. (This song will survive from generation to generation.) God knows, even before they enter the land, what these people are like. So, on that very day, Moses wrote down the words of the song and taught it to the Israelites. Then he charged Joshua (son of Nun) to be strong and courageous and said to him, “You must bring the people of Israel into the land the Lord promised them; for the Lord says, ‘I will be with you.’” When Moses had finished writing down all the laws that are recorded in this book, he instructed the Levites who carried the Ark containing the Ten Commandments to put this book of the law beside the Ark, as a solemn warning to the people of Israel.
Moses realizes how rebellious and stubborn Israel is. Even with Moses there they are defiant rebels against the Lord, how much more rebellious will they be after his very death! Moses summons all the elders and officers of every tribe so that he can speak to them, and call heaven and earth to witness against them. Moses knows that after his death they will utterly defile themselves and turn away from God and his commands; and in the days to come evil will crush them.

Then Moses recited the entire song to the whole assembly of Israel:

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)


1 And Moses goeth and speaketh these words unto all Israel,

2 and he saith unto them, `A son of a hundred and twenty years [am] I to-day; I am not able any more to go out and to come in, and Jehovah hath said unto me, Thou dost not pass over this Jordan,

3 `Jehovah thy God He is passing over before thee, He doth destroy these nations from before thee, and thou hast possessed them; Joshua -- he is passing over before thee as Jehovah hath spoken,

4 and Jehovah hath done to them as he hath done to Sihon and to Og, kings of the Amorite, and to their land, whom He destroyed.

5 And Jehovah hath given them before your face, and ye have done to them according to all the command which I have commanded you;

6 be strong and courageous, fear not, nor be terrified because of them, for Jehovah thy God [is] He who is going with thee; He doth not fail thee nor forsake thee.'

7 And Moses calleth for Joshua, and saith unto him before the eyes of all Israel, `Be strong and courageous, for thou -- thou dost go in with this people unto the land which Jehovah hath sworn to their fathers to give to them, and thou -- thou dost cause them to inherit it;

8 and Jehovah [is] He who is going before thee, He himself is with thee; He doth not fail thee nor forsake thee; fear not, nor be affrighted.'

9 And Moses writeth this law, and giveth it unto the priests (sons of Levi, those bearing the ark of the covenant of Jehovah), and unto all the elders of Israel,

10 and Moses commandeth them, saying, `At the end of seven years, in the appointed time, the year of release, in the feast of booths,

11 in the coming in of all Israel to see the face of Jehovah in the place which He chooseth, thou dost proclaim this law before all Israel, in their ears.

12 `Assemble the people, the men, and the women, and the infants, and thy sojourner who [is] within thy gates, so that they hear, and so that they learn, and have feared Jehovah your God, and observed to do all the words of this law;

13 and their sons, who have not known, do hear, and have learned to fear Jehovah your God all the days which ye are living on the ground whither ye are passing over the Jordan to possess it.'

14 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Lo, thy days have drawn near to die; call Joshua, and station yourselves in the tent of meeting, and I charge him;' and Moses goeth -- Joshua also -- and they station themselves in the tent of meeting,

15 and Jehovah is seen in the tent, in a pillar of a cloud; and the pillar of the cloud standeth at the opening of the tent.

16 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Lo, thou art lying down with thy fathers, and this people hath risen, and gone a-whoring after the gods of the stranger of the land into the midst of which it hath entered, and forsaken Me, and broken My covenant which I made with it;

17 and Mine anger hath burned against it in that day, and I have forsaken them, and hidden My face from them, and it hath been for consumption, and many evils and distresses have found it, and it hath said in that day, Is it not because that my God is not in my midst -- these evils have found me?

18 and I certainly hide My face in that day for all the evil which it hath done, for it hath turned unto other gods.

19 `And now, write for you this song, and teach it the sons of Israel; put it in their mouths, so that this song is to Me for a witness against the sons of Israel,

20 and I bring them in unto the ground which I have sworn to their fathers -- flowing with milk and honey, and they have eaten, and been satisfied, and been fat, and have turned unto other gods, and they have served them, and despised Me, and broken My covenant.

21 `And it hath been, when many evils and distresses do meet it, that this song hath testified to its face for a witness; for it is not forgotten out of the mouth of its seed, for I have known its imagining which it is doing to-day, before I bring them in unto the land of which I have sworn.'

22 And Moses writeth this song on that day, and doth teach it the sons of Israel,

23 and He commandeth Joshua son of Nun, and saith, `Be strong and courageous, for thou dost bring in the sons of Israel unto the land which I have sworn to them, and I -- I am with thee.'

24 And it cometh to pass, when Moses finisheth to write the words of this law on a book till their completion,

25 that Moses commandeth the Levites bearing the ark of the covenant of Jehovah, saying,

26 `Take this Book of the Law, and thou hast set it on the side of the ark of the covenant of Jehovah your God, and it hath been there against thee for a witness;

27 for I -- I have known thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck; lo, in my being yet alive with you to-day, rebellious ye have been with Jehovah, and also surely after my death.

28 `Assemble unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your authorities, and I speak in their ears these words, and cause to testify against them the heavens and the earth,

29 for I have known that after my death ye do very corruptly, and have turned aside out of the way which I commanded you, and evil hath met you in the latter end of the days, because ye do the evil thing in the eyes of Jehovah, to make Him angry with the work of your hands.'

30 And Moses speaketh in the ears of all the assembly of Israel the words of this song, till their completion: --
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Bazooka wrote:Nipper.

How, in your mind, did 8 people manage all that for a year?



Bumping because Nipper obviously 'missed' this question.....
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Bazooka wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Nipper.

How, in your mind, did 8 people manage all that for a year?



Bumping because Nipper obviously 'missed' this question.....

Yes Nipper, please answer Bazooka's question.

And when you're done you can answer my question, too: What happened to the dinosaurs?

Were there dinosaurs on board the ark that was built by 1st Chinese Emperor Noah?

Thank you.

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Bazooka wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Nipper.

How, in your mind, did 8 people manage all that for a year?



Bumping because Nipper obviously 'missed' this question.....

I am sure that Noah & his family were totally awestruck by God. And God protected them and the animals in the ark. There was obviously milk and eggs and grains and perhaps even insects to eat. I certainly beat being outside drowning...
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Yes Nipper, please answer Bazooka's question.

And when you're done you can answer my question, too: What happened to the dinosaurs?

Were there dinosaurs on board the ark that was built by 1st Chinese Emperor Noah?

Thank you.

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First off, we do not know how long lizards may have lived. If man could then live nearly 1000 years and lizards continue to grow their entire lifespan, I see that as one possibility. Another is that there are legends concerning dragons. The name dinosaur is a very modern term. I'm sure that they died out, etc... I see you love to make fun of the fact that there are unexplainable Chinese connections with the biblical tale of Noah. But the obvious reality is that the Chinese Emperors are a post Flood institution.
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