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Re: Bible verse by verse

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LittleNipper wrote:I believe you haven't thought God through. Babies are drowned everyday. Babies are killed in fires everyday. Babies die in accidents everyday. Babies die of diseases everyday. Babies are murdered everyday. AND we do not know if God didn't prevent child births as time drew closer to the Flood. But, an eternity in heaven with God is worth a thousand years on earth followed by hell.........


You're right, God does nothing to prevent babies being harmed so why should he save the babies drowning in the great flood, good point.

Given your last sentence, I assume you can explain (specifically) what we will do for an eternity in heaven with a God capable of drowning babies and standing idly by whilst they suffer, that is so much better than a thousand years on earth without Him followed by hell...which will at least have central heating? Because, given our experience of God's dealings with us whilst on earth, He really isn't coming across as someone we will enjoy spending time with.
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Bazooka wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:The people who drowned were not the children of God but the sons of perdition. If there were any babies, they were snatched from those who would teach them the ways of eternal damnation and they went to heaven. And again, God can make a way. And my feeling is that keeping the Noah family occupied gave them less to think and worry about.


Could God have not come up with a better way of protecting those children and infants from the 'sons of perdition' other than "Hey, I've got it, I'll drown them, that'll save them....". For instance, God being God, would have foreseen that these individuals would turn into sons of perdition and, with the merest blink of His eye, could have made them all to fire blanks for a period of time, hence no infants would need drowning.

As for Noah and his kin, how would they find the time to tend to worry with all the repopulating they needed to get on with?

Your God, despite His power, really doesn't think stuff through does he....

putting aside the misplaced arrogance of your declaration here, i can't help but wonder one thing:
How are you drawing this conclusion that God, the Father, intends for every person to exist upon this planet for 80.29 years?
And how are you concluding that His desire is for you to have a new XBox One ?

last time i checked the teaching was:
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons" - Acts 10:34

Me, i learned this simple lesson as a child...listening to Bill Cosby:
"My father established our relationship when I was seven years old. He looked at me and said, "You know, I brought you in this world, and I can take you out. And it don't make no difference to me, I'll make another one look just like you."

while i understand this offends your ego....you should understand that is the real problem here....your ego.
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subgenius wrote:How are you drawing this conclusion that God, the Father, intends for every person to exist upon this planet for 80.29 years?

Can you show me where I draw that conclusion? Thought not.

And how are you concluding that His desire is for you to have a new XBox One ?

X Box? How dare you!

last time i checked the teaching was:
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons" - Acts 10:34

That was the teaching of Peter, who was speaking as a man and may have been incorrectly translated (see Articles of Faith)

Me, i learned this simple lesson as a child...listening to Bill Cosby:
"My father established our relationship when I was seven years old. He looked at me and said, "You know, I brought you in this world, and I can take you out. And it don't make no difference to me, I'll make another one look just like you."

Exactly, not the kind of person you'd want to hang around with. Thanks for supporting my point.

while i understand this offends your ego....you should understand that is the real problem here....your ego.

I think you'll find the problem is God's ego, or at least the ego that he is portrayed as having in the scriptures.
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Nipper--

Back on November third you posted a link suggesting that after the Great Flood, Noah went on to become the first emperor of China: http://www.noahs-ark.tv/the-true-bible- ... hs-ark.htm

Among other things, your link claimed:

4. There is evidence from both archeology in China and word pictures embedded in the Chinese language, that Noah moved to China and may have been the first emperor.


Nipper, I'd like to know specifically which which "word pictures" in the Chinese language indicate a connection with Noah and with the events in Genesis.

Having served a Mormon mission in China (Taiwan), and having studied Mandarin Chinese in college, I am eager to learn more about the mysterious relationship between Chinese ideograms and Genesis.

I eagerly await your response.
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LittleNipper wrote:I believe you haven't thought God through.
As there is no god to think of, at, to, even through. English is a rich language...


LittleNipper wrote:Babies are drowned everyday. Babies are killed in fires everyday. Babies die in accidents everyday. Babies die of diseases everyday. Babies are murdered everyday.
And god craps on - (PR word: doesn't care) - babies. Unlimited goodness, damn...


LittleNipper wrote:But, an eternity in heaven with God is worth a thousand years on earth followed by hell.........
No heaven, no hell, no gods --- you can fantasizing --- BUT FOR (nonexisting) HEAVENS' SAKE ---
--- leave us alone without your biblemania !!!


The word "thousand" appears 726 times in the Bible (KJV).
"logic" appears 0 times.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:Nipper--

Back on November third you posted a link suggesting that after the Great Flood, Noah went on to become the first emperor of China: http://www.noahs-ark.tv/the-true-bible- ... hs-ark.htm

Among other things, your link claimed:

4. There is evidence from both archeology in China and word pictures embedded in the Chinese language, that Noah moved to China and may have been the first emperor.


Nipper, I'd like to know specifically which which "word pictures" in the Chinese language indicate a connection with Noah and with the events in Genesis.

Having served a Mormon mission in China (Taiwan), and having studied Mandarin Chinese in college, I am eager to learn more about the mysterious relationship between Chinese ideograms and Genesis.

I eagerly await your response.

did you not click the actual link you posted?? :lol:

try this one http://www.noahs-ark.tv/chinese/bible-e ... enesis.htm

you and nipper are most entertaining
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Thank you for bringing that to my attention, subby. What I meant was item four in the intro of this link, here...

http://www.noahs-ark.tv/the-true-bible- ... hs-ark.htm

If you have any thoughts regarding the phonetic roots and contextual radicals of the relevant Chinese ideogram(s), I would love to hear them.

Now if you don't mind, I'd like to repeat my question for Little Nipper...

Nipper--

Back on November third you posted a link suggesting that after the Great Flood, Noah went on to become the first emperor of China: http://www.noahs-ark.tv/the-true-bible- ... hs-ark.htm

Among other things, your link claimed:

4. There is evidence from both archeology in China and word pictures embedded in the Chinese language, that Noah moved to China and may have been the first emperor.

Nipper, I'd like to know specifically which "word pictures" in the Chinese language indicate a connection with Noah and with the events in Genesis.

Having served a Mormon mission in China (Taiwan), and having studied Mandarin Chinese in college, I am eager to learn more about the mysterious relationship between Chinese ideograms and Genesis.

I eagerly await your response.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:Nipper--

Back on November third you posted a link suggesting that after the Great Flood, Noah went on to become the first emperor of China: http://www.noahs-ark.tv/the-true-bible- ... hs-ark.htm

Among other things, your link claimed:

4. There is evidence from both archeology in China and word pictures embedded in the Chinese language, that Noah moved to China and may have been the first emperor.

Nipper, I'd like to know specifically which "word pictures" in the Chinese language indicate a connection with Noah and with the events in Genesis.

Having served a Mormon mission in China (Taiwan), and having studied Mandarin Chinese in college, I am eager to learn more about the mysterious relationship between Chinese ideograms and Genesis.

I eagerly await your response.
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If you are interested read the following: http://www.bibleetnombres.online.fr/genesis.pdf
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LittleNipper wrote:If you are interested read the following: http://www.bibleetnombres.online.fr/genesis.pdf

As a matter of fact I've already read that book, and it's analysis of the ideograms in question are entirely nonsensical because they are based on a strategy of trying to blur the distinction between phonetic roots and radicals. And in any case, the first attempts to translate the Bible into Han characters didn't start until around 1800, and the complex versions of Han characters that are used in contemporary Chinese were not standardized until around 150 BC.

In other words, this analysis makes no sense for the same reason why it makes no sense for Evangelicals tell people that the Chinese term for "Mormon" means "gate of the devil". You're basically just making stuff up. Mormons have a special term for this: "Lying for the Lord".
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:If you are interested read the following: http://www.bibleetnombres.online.fr/genesis.pdf

As a matter of fact I've already read that book, and it's analysis of the ideograms in question are entirely nonsensical because they are based on a strategy of trying to blur the distinction between phonetic roots and radicals. And in any case, the first attempts to translate the Bible into Han characters didn't start until around 1800, and the complex versions of Han characters that are used in contemporary Chinese were not standardized until around 150 BC.

In other words, this analysis makes no sense for the same reason why it makes no sense for Evangelicals tell people that the Chinese term for "Mormon" means "gate of the devil". You're basically just making stuff up. Mormons have a special term for this: "Lying for the Lord".

Any judgment of you is entirely in God's hands. Nothing is enough for you and you are plainly here to promote yourself. I pray that you find what you do not seem to possess --- the mind of God.
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