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Think how fun it would be to have your own planet, as well as a bunch of perfected spouses (means they would all look like Scarlett Johansson). You could alternately oversee and procreate. Maybe both in the right position.

How could any of you pass this unending ecstasy up? This is your world, whip up any batch of ecstasy you want, even put them in magenta capsules. Want an earthquake to shake your martini? Go for it. You're the Deity! Now you might ask what this is going to cost, but why worry? We work on a sliding scale based upon your gross or net income (you get to decide!!!).

Where to sign up? Just send a PM to Consiglieri on this very board and you can be on your way to the planet where your dreams come true.

The best part is that you would not gain super-intelligence that would would alter your lusts and governing values drastically. Can you imagine if you started to hang around the Celestial Coffee House, listening to the seductive thoughts of the beat poet gods and Telestial Philosophers? Or upbraiding Shades and Runtu on their grammar or even addressing the MD classicists in Sumerian, with a perfect Upper East Side Ur-ian accent. Perish the thought, right? Stick to the plan and you will be happy!
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Do we have to blow anything up to get all this awesomeness?
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moksha wrote:Now you might ask what this is going to cost, but why worry? We work on a sliding scale based upon your gross or net income (you get to decide!!!).


Good news, we have an official church published document (i.e. its doctrine, just ask bspace) ... its all laid out for you in exactness and detail of just what the cost SHOULD be (well what the cost is for leaders anyway)

http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/

ouuuuchhh
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RockSlider wrote:
moksha wrote:Now you might ask what this is going to cost, but why worry? We work on a sliding scale based upon your gross or net income (you get to decide!!!).
Good news, we have an official church published document (i.e. its doctrine, just ask bspace) ... its all laid out for you in exactness and detail of just what the cost SHOULD be (well what the cost is for leaders anyway)

http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/

ouuuuchhh
Simply outrageous --- I have other words to describe but here is a word censor...

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We (my TBM wife and I) have in our acquaintanceship a couple (ex temple president and his wife) --- we guided them two times in Budapest and vice versa. I don't share other details, because not they are who are accountable.

A few years ago, there were a big conference in Budapest. This couple were housed in Marriott Bp., in a suite paid by church. My wife was their guest for a few minute. After she reported her visit, I did some computing.
Three day cost there was 25-28 years tithing of my wife.
She became angry after I told her the result. As usual, she said I searched only for the church's faults...
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The Father has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the fullness of his kingdom. In other words we will have the privilege of becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WORLDS, and these worlds will be peopled by our own offspring. We will have an endless eternity for this.

- Joseph Fielding Smith Jr., Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2, p.48, emphasis added
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SteelHead wrote:The Father has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the fullness of his kingdom. In other words we will have the privilege of becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WORLDS, and these worlds will be peopled by our own offspring. We will have an endless eternity for this.

- Joseph Fielding Smith Jr., Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2, p.48, emphasis added



Now here's the problem.
If this goes on forever and we are always progressing onwards and onwards in an ever repeating cycle of events, it really doesn't matter if we follow the Gospel now. This also means there is an infinite number of spirit children and therefore souls, and so Temple work is irrelevant - it can not be done for an infinite number.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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https://www.LDS.org/topics/becoming-like-god?lang=eng

"As the scriptures teach, “That same sociality which exists among us here will exist among us there, only it will be coupled with eternal glory, which glory we do not now enjoy.” (D&C 130:2)

"...those who become like God and enter into a fulness of His glory are described as people who have been “made perfect through Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, who wrought out this perfect atonement through the shedding of his own blood."

The actual doctrine from the church and its teachings seem to contradict the rather fanciful scenarios you paint in the OP. To imagine exaltation as a fulfillment of your temporal and base desires is to fail in realizing that exaltation comes from an understanding of what is more valuable and fulfilling, than those primitive trappings. You seemingly confuse self-less with self-ish.
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Bazooka wrote:Now here's the problem.
If this goes on forever and we are always progressing onwards and onwards in an ever repeating cycle of events, it really doesn't matter if we follow the Gospel now. This also means there is an infinite number of spirit children and therefore souls, and so Temple work is irrelevant - it can not be done for an infinite number.

I see...its like why bothering wiping your bottom? you are only going to spew out the same filth tomorrow.
thanks for clarity - an admirable plan is what you have.... indeed.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
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subgenius wrote:To imagine exaltation as a fulfillment of your temporal and base desires is to fail in realizing that exaltation comes from an understanding of what is more valuable and fulfilling, than those primitive trappings. You seemingly confuse self-less with self-ish.


What is valuable and fulfilling to one person is worthless and unfulfilling to the next. It's personal preference.
For instance, you may find going to the temple valuable and fulfilling and so, an eternity like that is your idea of exaltation.
Someone else may find an eternity of temple like activity exceptionally cultish, weird and creepy and so would not consider that exaltation at all.
You posit that every persons idyl will be consistent in the after life, whereas we know our personal preferences and opinions will travel with us.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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subgenius wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Now here's the problem.
If this goes on forever and we are always progressing onwards and onwards in an ever repeating cycle of events, it really doesn't matter if we follow the Gospel now. This also means there is an infinite number of spirit children and therefore souls, and so Temple work is irrelevant - it can not be done for an infinite number.

I see...its like why bothering wiping your bottom? you are only going to spew out the same filth tomorrow.
thanks for clarity - an admirable plan is what you have.... indeed.


Living the Gospel is like wiping your bottom?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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