mentalgymnast wrote:ControlFreak wrote:
Thews, on the other hand, has always come across as an ass.
He does seem to be rather mean spirited.
Regards,
MG
Go ahead and jump on the :highfive: bandwagon as it's all you have and a diversionary tactic to divert the thread into anything but your supposed point. You claim to have made up your own mind, yet can't seem to put into words (or quote its link) how they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them can mean something other than what the English language would dictate. You are wrong and if one link down an LDS rabbit hole is all that you need to convince you what is, really isn't, then logic isn't required for you to jump through your mental hoop. What you have failed to explain away is why men of color were not allowed to hold the LDS priesthood until 1978.
Regarding your opinion of me ControlFreak, I could honestly give a rat's ass. These men may seem nice to you, but to me, inwardly they are ravaging wolves. Their intent is to deceive their students, which is why they don't answer questions. The people that are successfully deceived by them will live their lives by trusting their teachers. In order for the LDS apologists to succeed, they have to know the truth. David may cook a nice rack of ribs for you and be your BFF, and I'm sure Consig is a "nice guy" in real life, but it doesn't negate their intent. I'm not here to make friends, but rather to point out to the lurkers why these men should not be trusted.
To the lurkers... note that the apologists opinion in this thread have concluded the following:
bcspace - "There's no evidence for that whatsoever. For racism to be present, it must be said that black skin is the source of bad things happening or curses etc. Nothing like that is extant in LDS scripture or doctrine past and present."
Consig - Nothing of substance, just more diversionary flippant responses to avoid the questions asked.
mentalgymnast - A link to some LDS rabbit hole that explains nothing without any point being made (quoted).
If you have a reading comprehension level higher than third grade, I would assume you could clearly understand 2 Nephi 5:21, as it means exactly what it states. There isn't a left-hand metaphor that could be interpreted in different ways, but a very specific explanation regarding the Mormon God's disdain for black skin. This is why black men could not hold the LDS priesthood until the Mormon God changed his mind in 1978, but the previous 130 years excluded them. You may not know that "White and delightsome" has now been changed to "Pure and delightsome" in LDS doctrine, but if you care to know the truth I strongly suggest you read this link, because you can find the truth here:
http://mormonthink.com/blackweb.htm#full
2 Nephi 5: 21
'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'