The Book of Mormon contridicts Mormonism

[_LittleNipper]

Which Christian deception (according to you) are you referencing?

I'm also reminded of the Satanic Ritual Abuse scare during the 80's and 90's, when xians propagated false rumors of a world-wide conspiracy of Satanists to kidnap small children to abuse and use in violent rituals.

I never hard that. I do remember hearing that cats might have been hurt by Satanists but snopes.com is inconclusive... Though they have not said that it doesn't happen.

[Guest]

I didn't say that at all.

Here's what you said...

LITTLENIPPER: Might God have hardened Hitler's heart to re-establish Israel as a nation, where there were once only dry bones?

LITTLENIPPER: Everyone will die. Is that genocide as well?

LITTLENIPPER: However, the holocaust is directly the result of the Jews rejection of Christ.

What you're doing here is A) marginalizing the Holocaust, and B) blaming the Jews for what the Nazis did to them. This is a textbook example of antisemitism. Ergo, you suck.

God promised Israel that if they remained true to God they would never have to live in fear. Where the Nazis eventually punished? Did not Hitler kill himself? You are a textbook atheist. You scrape for crumps to suit your itching ears. But you do not accept sound doctrine because you do not accept that the Bible is God's Holy Word.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Can you prove that they do not? Please see: http://students.washington.edu/cbsf/cool/Chinese.swf

Yes, I can and I did. Please go back to where you and I first discussed the difference between the phonetic and radical components of Han characters.

So...now that I've given three of four good examples of xians employing deception when attempting to evangelize non-believers, would you please tell me you find it necessary?

[_The Erotic Apologist]

You are a textbook atheist.

I tend to think of myself as more of an agnostic, but thank you for the compliment.

You scrape for crumps to suit your itching ears.

Scrape for crumps???

But you do not accept sound doctrine because you do not accept that the Bible is God's Holy Word.

Right--when everything else fails, threaten them with hellfire and brimstone. Gotcha.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

I never hard that. I do remember hearing that cats might have been hurt by Satanists but snopes.com is inconclusive... Though they have not said that it doesn't happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse

So why do you and certain other xians practice deception when evangelizing non-believers? Still waiting for an answer...

[Guest]

Can you prove that they do not? Please see: http://students.washington.edu/cbsf/cool/Chinese.swf

Yes, I can and I did. Please go back to where you and I first discussed the difference between the phonetic and radical components of Han characters.

So...now that I've given three of four good examples of xians employing deception when attempting to evangelize non-believers, would you please tell me you find it necessary?

And I believe you are wrong. Who is deceived --- me or you? I am sure that one can study ancient Chinese and see differences between that and modern Chinese. But the question is going to be what came first. Clearly, if none of the characters are expressed as those who promote the truth of the Flood say they do in ancient Chinese records, but only modern ones, then there is an error. However, I believe that the ancient Chinese writing supports the interpretation you seem to fault.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

God promised Israel that if they remained true to God they would never have to live in fear. Where the Nazis eventually punished? Did not Hitler kill himself?

Again, you are A) marginalizing the Holocaust, and B) blaming the Jews for what the Nazis did to them. Ergo, you are an antisemite. And you still totally suck.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

And I believe you are wrong. Who is deceived --- me or you? I am sure that one can study ancient Chinese and see differences between that and modern Chinese.

I minored in Mandarin Chinese in college. I served a Mormon mission in the republic of China (Taiwan). I taught ESL in China. I consulted at Beijing Film Academy on the subject of historic process photography. So, I like to think I maybe know a little more about Chinese characters than you do.

But the question is going to be what came first.

Tortoise shell script predates them all.

Clearly if none of the characters are expressed as those who promote the truth of the Flood say they do in ancient Chinese records but only modern ones then there is an error.

Sorry--this is complete gibberish. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

However, I believe that the ancient Chinese writing supports the interpretation you seem to fault.

Thank you for admitting this is nothing more than an unfounded belief on your part. You are free to believe anything your little heart desires. But you still totally suck.

This has been a lot of fun, Nipper. But I need to go, now. Later, dude.

[_LittleNipper]

God promised Israel that if they remained true to God they would never have to live in fear. Where the Nazis eventually punished? Did not Hitler kill himself?

Again, you are A) marginalizing the Holocaust, and B) blaming the Jews for what the Nazis did to them. Ergo, you are an antisemite. And you still totally suck.

And you are not a believer, and as such we will never agree on this topic for obvious reasons. Jews are the Chosen seed of Abraham. The Hebrew nation was intended to be a living example of God's love to the world as a Theocracy. You are anti-Christian. And the fact is that many Jews were saved simply by leaving all their possessions behind and fleeing Germany. However, that doesn't mean that Germany was not ultimately held accountable for their contribution.

[_LittleNipper]

And I believe you are wrong. Who is deceived --- me or you? I am sure that one can study ancient Chinese and see differences between that and modern Chinese.

I minored in Mandarin Chinese in college. I served a Mormon mission in the republic of China (Taiwan). I taught ESL in China. I consulted at Beijing Film Academy on the subject of historic process photography. So, I like to think I maybe know a little more about Chinese characters than you do.

But the question is going to be what came first.

Tortoise shell script predates them all.

Clearly if none of the characters are expressed as those who promote the truth of the Flood say they do in ancient Chinese records but only modern ones then there is an error.

Sorry--this is complete gibberish. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

However, I believe that the ancient Chinese writing supports the interpretation you seem to fault.

Thank you for admitting this is nothing more than an unfounded belief on your part. You are free to believe anything your little heart desires. But you still totally suck.

This has been a lot of fun, Nipper. But I need to go, now. Later, dude.

I feel that the direction of how Chinese was taught to you (in this recent era) had little if anything to do with the Bible. And it was likely an early Chinese Bible translator who began to note the symbolism in the Chinese picture writing. It's likely that you were more influenced by the People's Republic of China than you might wish to consider. Don't let the door hit your butt as you go...