It only identifies those from an inferior lineage.
Doesn't say that either.
It only identifies those from an inferior lineage.
bcspace wrote:It only identifies those from an inferior lineage.
Doesn't say that either.
bcspace wrote:Actually, the doctrine is racist.
The Book of Mormon teaches that, in order for people to understand who was unrighteous and therefore not to be mingled with, God made it easy by making the skin of the unrighteous dark. Therefore all members had to do was discriminate against the people who's skin colour and race matched with what God had done to identify them.
In other words dark skin = unrighteous.
That's racist.
It's not racist because doctrinally skin color was being use to identify lineage and not to say skin color automatically makes one inferior.
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
22 And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.
bcspace wrote:So you admit that the Church doesn't teach that their wickedness stems from skin color. Thanks for proving once again that LDS scripture and doctrine is not racist.
bcspace wrote:They were cursed with dark skin as a sign of their wickedness and to keep the white people from getting it on with them.
So you admit that the Church doesn't teach that their wickedness stems from skin color. Thanks for proving once again that LDS scripture and doctrine is not racist.
Skin color identifies a lineage cursed by God
bcspace wrote:Skin color identifies a lineage cursed by God
Yes. But now you're back to the question of whether or not He cursed them because of their skin color or perhaps because of their skin color they were intrinsically disobedient or their skin color otherwise somehow caused the curse to come upon them. ...
bcspace wrote:Skin color identifies a lineage cursed by God
Yes.
2 Nephi 5: 21
'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
bcspace wrote: But now you're back to the question of whether or not He cursed them because of their skin color or perhaps because of their skin color they were intrinsically disobedient or their skin color otherwise somehow caused the curse to come upon them.
in·iq·ui·ty
[ih-nik-wi-tee] Show IPA
noun, plural in·iq·ui·ties.
1.
gross injustice or wickedness.
2.
a violation of right or duty; wicked act; sin.
bcspace wrote: In each case the answer is no. Hence, no racism.
Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.
Bazooka wrote:
Actually, the doctrine is racist.
The Book of Mormon teaches that, in order for people to understand who was unrighteous and therefore not to be mingled with, God made it easy by making the skin of the unrighteous dark. Therefore all members had to do was discriminate against the people who's skin colour and race matched with what God had done to identify them.
In other words dark skin = unrighteous.
That's racist.
bcspace wrote:Yes. But now you're back to the question of whether or not He cursed them because of their skin color or perhaps because of their skin color they were intrinsically disobedient or their skin color otherwise somehow caused the curse to come upon them. ...
No we're not.
So those black people and all their descendants deserved the disadvantage of being excluded from the priesthood and so on and so forth.
It is clear to us that you don't think that is racist, whereas most everybody else here does. No problem: everybody accepts that you are a bit weird in that regard, but that doesn't necessarily mean you eat babies.