Lesson from Abraham

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_The Erotic Apologist
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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LittleNipper wrote:Man sins. God simply spelled it out so that man would get it. Man is rather dense. :eek: Other than Christ, man is unable to fulfill the LAW. That is because of his sinful nature, and why Christ needed to become the REAL sacrifice that all the animal sacrifices of the Bible only hinted at...

Like most of your posts, this only applies if you buy into Christianity's supernatural faith claims. If you don't, it's pretty much irrelevant.
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Man sins. God simply spelled it out so that man would get it. Man is rather dense. :eek: Other than Christ, man is unable to fulfill the LAW. That is because of his sinful nature, and why Christ needed to become the REAL sacrifice that all the animal sacrifices of the Bible only hinted at...

Like most of your posts, this only applies if you buy into Christianity's supernatural faith claims. If you don't, it's pretty much irrelevant.

Like most of your posts you prescribe only atheistic thought processes as being relevant. You are very narrow minded and egotistical to a fault in this regard. And while I do post biblical responses. Your time is spent being negative without contributing.
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LittleNipper wrote:Like most of your posts you prescribe only atheistic thought processes as being relevant.
You're confusing atheism with naturalism, and in any case I'm not an atheist, which you would know if you bothered to read any of the other posts.

Do you have anything to back up your supernatural faith claims that doesn't depend on an a priori belief in biblical divinity? If you don't, then what makes you think your supernatural faith claims are of any relevance to those who don't believe in them?


LittleNipper wrote:You are very narrow minded and egotistical to a fault in this regard.
What is it about fundamentalists that makes them resort to name calling when their arguments fail?


LittleNipper wrote:And while I do post biblical responses.
Your problem is not that you post biblical responses; your problem is that you have nothing to offer that doesn't depend on an a priori assumption of biblical divinity. In other words, you have nothing to offer people who don't already believe in the Bible.


LittleNipper wrote:Your time is spent being negative without contributing.
On the contrary, I'm contributing by offering an opposing viewpoint. I thought that was pretty obvious.
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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ludwigm wrote:I wouldn't pass the abrahamic test.

If it were about my daughter or my four stepchildren, three grandchildren or seventeen stepgrandchildren (the listed 5+20 are all equal for me, by the way) I would say "f* you, no".


There is no god.
If there were one --- assumed but not allowed --- then he/she/it would not do or institute the many s*** written in Bible or quran or whatever so-called scripture.

as an answer to above, LittleNipper wrote:Man sins. God simply spelled it out so that man would get it. Man is rather dense. :eek: Other than Christ, man is unable to fulfill the LAW. That is because of his sinful nature, and why Christ needed to become the REAL sacrifice that all the animal sacrifices of the Bible only hinted at...

This blabber has nothing to do with my comment.
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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subgenius wrote:Wow, glad to know you support infanticide.
Yet I clearly stated that this episode is the introduction of morality as it were. That something being "perfectly natural" is actually not the measure for good, bad...preferred or not preferred.

For example:
infanticide - "attributed to stress causing factors ... ... considered pathological and maladaptive"

see, there is "moral" implication there...yet....

So, while we see homosexuality occur "naturally" in a severe minority population across a severe minority of species this in no way validates or invalidates its moral implication. However, good science - especially evolutionary science - can only conclude that homosexuality as a "natural" occurrence is maladaptive and the product of defective genes or defective psychology.

(by the way, nice how you compared the LGBT to intestinal parasites (gut worms)...especially since, ironically, gut worms may be transmitted by anilingus)....
but there is hope...science is moving in the right direction
"Hope for commercial gut worm vaccine"
http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/ ... e.22899420


Shades, can you pin this ^ somewhere under the heading "How to create a straw man"
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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ludwigm wrote:
ludwigm wrote:There is no god.
If there were one --- assumed but not allowed --- then he/she/it would not do or institute the many s*** written in Bible or quran or whatever so-called scripture.

as an answer to above, LittleNipper wrote:Man sins. God simply spelled it out so that man would get it. Man is rather dense. :eek: Other than Christ, man is unable to fulfill the LAW. That is because of his sinful nature, and why Christ needed to become the REAL sacrifice that all the animal sacrifices of the Bible only hinted at...

This blabber has nothing to do with my comment.
As expressed in Hungarian, even there is no nodding acquaintance between the two. "Köszönő viszonyban sincsenek."


This is in English:
And I presented the reason GOD instituted the LAW.
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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ludwigm wrote:
ludwigm wrote:There is no god.
If there were one --- assumed but not allowed --- then he/she/it would not do or institute the many s*** written in Bible or quran or whatever so-called scripture.

as an answer to above, LittleNipper wrote:Man sins. God simply spelled it out so that man would get it. Man is rather dense. :eek: Other than Christ, man is unable to fulfill the LAW. That is because of his sinful nature, and why Christ needed to become the REAL sacrifice that all the animal sacrifices of the Bible only hinted at...

This blabber has nothing to do with my comment.
As expressed in Hungarian, even there is no nodding acquaintance between the two. "Köszönő viszonyban sincsenek."


This is in English:
And I presented the reason GOD instituted the LAW. And God demonstrated throughout the Bible that man is not only a sinner but rather slow to realize it.
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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Nipper, if God asked you to sacrifice your son on an alter using a knife, would you do so?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Man sins. God simply spelled it out so that man would get it. Man is rather dense. :eek: Other than Christ, man is unable to fulfill the LAW. That is because of his sinful nature, and why Christ needed to become the REAL sacrifice that all the animal sacrifices of the Bible only hinted at...

Like most of your posts, this only applies if you buy into Christianity's supernatural faith claims. If you don't, it's pretty much irrelevant.

Ummm...the story of Abraham from the OP is one of those "claims"...so how is that irrelevant?
...are you just talking about the relevance to you?
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Re: Lesson from Abraham

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Bazooka wrote:
subgenius wrote:Wow, glad to know you support infanticide.
Yet I clearly stated that this episode is the introduction of morality as it were. That something being "perfectly natural" is actually not the measure for good, bad...preferred or not preferred.

For example:
infanticide - "attributed to stress causing factors ... ... considered pathological and maladaptive"

see, there is "moral" implication there...yet....

So, while we see homosexuality occur "naturally" in a severe minority population across a severe minority of species this in no way validates or invalidates its moral implication. However, good science - especially evolutionary science - can only conclude that homosexuality as a "natural" occurrence is maladaptive and the product of defective genes or defective psychology.

(by the way, nice how you compared the LGBT to intestinal parasites (gut worms)...especially since, ironically, gut worms may be transmitted by anilingus)....
but there is hope...science is moving in the right direction
"Hope for commercial gut worm vaccine"
http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/ ... e.22899420


Shades, can you pin this ^ somewhere under the heading "How to create a straw man"

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Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
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