The Bible and Book of Mormon agree, God created everything E

[_maklelan]

Now who's using childish rhetoric with no substance

Still you. A thousand times still you. You're ignoring my argument and wasting everyone's time with these ignorant sectarian rants.

[_Res Ipsa]

Mak, I think you do an excellent job at showing the double standard employed by Biblical Literalists who attack Mormonism. I admire your effort at adopting a consistent way of trying to understand both the Bible and the Book of Mormon.

[_Mittens]

Now who's using childish rhetoric with no substance

Still you. A thousand times still you. You're ignoring my argument and wasting everyone's time with these ignorant sectarian rants.

This website predicates your response


http://www.mormoninfographics.com/

[_maklelan]

This website predicates your response

http://www.mormoninfographics.com/

Do you mean "predicts"? In reality, it does neither. I can predict all your future responses when it comes to directly defending your assertions about the Bible:

. . .

[_Mittens]

This website predicates your response

http://www.mormoninfographics.com/

Do you mean "predicts"? In reality, it does neither. I can predict all your future responses when it comes to directly defending your assertions about the Bible:

[quote]

maklelan seems at home attacking the Bible , for example I posted 12 Scripture from the Bible saying Jesus is God, maklelan seemed to think they were translated wrong yet when I quoted the verses out of the Book of Mormon saying the same think I heard not a peep. I get the feeling Mak attack doesn't believe Jesus is OUR GOD .

Mosiah 3:5 For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay, and shall go forth amongst men, working mighty miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, causing the lame to walk, the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and curing all manner of diseases.


3 Nephi 19:
18 And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God.

Mosiah 5:15 Therefore, I would that ye should be steadfast and immovable, always abounding in good works, that Christ, the Lord God Omnipotent, may seal you his, that you may be brought to heaven, that ye may have everlasting salvation and eternal life, through the wisdom, and power, and justice, and mercy of him who created all things, in heaven and in earth, who is God above all. Amen.

An abridgment taken from the Book of Ether also, which is a record of the people of Jared, who were scattered at the time the Lord confounded the language of the people, when they were building a tower to get to heaven—Which is to show unto the remnant of the house of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they are not cast off forever—And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations—And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.

Translated by Joseph Smith, Jun.

2 Nephi 26:12 And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus is the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God;

[_maklelan]

maklelan seems at home attacking the Bible

Not really, but you continue to be quite at home being completely unwilling and unable to defend it in the least.

for example I posted 12 Scripture from the Bible saying Jesus is God, maklelan seemed to think they were translated wrong

Some of them. Others you just interpreted wrong. But you never said a word in response to my concerns.

yet when I quoted the verses out of the Book of Mormon saying the same think I heard not a peep.

Because I'm not here to defend the Book of Mormon from anything. I'm here to expose your ignorance and your manipulation of the data.

I get the feeling Mak attack doesn't believe Jesus is OUR GOD .

I get the feeling you're a terrible apologist.

[_Mittens]

already know your attack is on the Bible and there no way you can defend the Book of Mormon since it's a mythical book written by a professor of the Creeds. But still a man, not God breathed like the Bible

[_maklelan]

already know your attack is on the Bible and there no way you can defend the Book of Mormon since it's a mythical book written by a professor of the Creeds. But still a man, not God breathed like the Bible

And I've challenging your claim that the Bible is God breathed. Are you really refusing to respond to my challenge?

[_Mittens]

Here's a very good example of God breathed from an omniscience God

Micah 5


1 Now gather yourself in troops,

O daughter of troops;

He has laid siege against us;

They will strike the judge of Israel with a rod on the cheek.

2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,

Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,

Yet out of you shall come forth to Me

The One to be Ruler in Israel,

Whose goings forth are from of old,

From everlasting.”

This was written Approximately 800 years before Jesus was Born in Bethlehem.

Juxtapose a man made book that was written by other than an omniscience God written 1800 after the fact Alma 7:

10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.

One of the problems have with an omniscience God is Mormons deny the existence of one.

God himself is increasing and progressing in knowledge, power, and dominion, and will do so, worlds without end." Wilford Woodruff, Journal of Discourses Vol. 6:120

[_maklelan]

Here's a very good example of God breathed from an omniscience God

Well, first, you have no idea if Jesus was really born at Bethlehem. That's just a tradition contained in the gospels. Whether or not it's true is not something you can know, so that's not really evidence. Next, the comparison with the Book of Mormon is naïve. Bethelehem was considered a town of Jerusalem from the time of the Amarna tablets down to the time of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Similarly, I lived in Longmont, CO, for a long time, which is in Boulder county, but not a part of the city of Boulder. When people from outside Colorado would ask where I lived in Colorado, I would say Boulder. Any competent look at the ancient use of the word "Jerusalem" will show it is used both as a designation of a city and as a broader regional designation, with Bethelehem mentioned on multiple occasions as one of the towns belonging to Jerusalem according to the latter. There's nothing at all wrong with the Book of Mormon's comment. Don't let that get in the way of your ignorant rhetoric, though.