Textual Criticism - The Bible and the Book of Mormon

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Re: Textual Criticism - The Bible and the Book of Mormon

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Servant wrote:For those who want a scholarly treatment of Christ's Deity, here is Dr. White:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM6Q--nmpPo


No, James White is neither a Dr. nor a scholar. You can see my lengthy engagement of his pseudo-scholarship here. Catherine has repeatedly asserted that I'm a loser and James White is a scholar and a gentleman, but she's never been able to engage a single claim I've made in those blog posts. Oh, and nor has James White.
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Servant wrote:There is not one verse in the Bible that teaches Christ's Deity?


There are verses that suggest he is divine, but there are none that support the notion that God exhausts the category of divinity, and therefore "divine" means "God." There are also many verses that insist certain humans are divine.

Servant wrote:Are you that UNLEARNED?


This is what dogmatism is. I'm wrong because I disagree with your presupposition. You have no idea what the evidence is, but because it's a part of your faith, I'm wrong.

Servant wrote:But, forget the Bible,


No, we shan't be doing that. We're not at CARM, so you can't report me for being off-topic because I'm talking about the Bible and you're cornered. There is not a single verse in all the Bible that supports your brand of trinitarianism. If you want to disagree, give me chapter and verse.
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Servant wrote:Spoken like a true sectarian! [/b]

And by the way, mak, your problem is that your goal is to discredit the Bible - even contrary to what the LDS teach! If that's what drives you, it will catch up with you one day.


No, my goal is to take the Bible seriously. Your problem is that doing that entirely undermines your dogmatism.
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maklelan wrote:
Servant wrote:Spoken like a true sectarian! [/b]

And by the way, mak, your problem is that your goal is to discredit the Bible - even contrary to what the LDS teach! If that's what drives you, it will catch up with you one day.


No, my goal is to take the Bible seriously. Your problem is that doing that entirely undermines your dogmatism.

I see. The only one allowed to be dogmatic is you?
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Servant wrote:I see. The only one allowed to be dogmatic is you?


I'm not being dogmatic at all. If you have evidence to support anything, provide it. I change my mind whenever the evidence requires it. You never do because your dogmatism doesn't allow it, irrespective of what the evidence requires.
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maklelan wrote:
Servant wrote:I see. The only one allowed to be dogmatic is you?


I'm not being dogmatic at all. If you have evidence to support anything, provide it. I change my mind whenever the evidence requires it. You never do because your dogmatism doesn't allow it, irrespective of what the evidence requires.


Now I see a fair question here.
Maklelan, do you have a recent example of sometime when you've changed your mind because the evidence required it?
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Bazooka wrote:Now I see a fair question here.
Maklelan, do you have a recent example of sometime when you've changed your mind because the evidence required it?


Yes. Ehrman's book How Jesus Became God changed my mind on how early the notion of Christ's preexistence was. Ehrman provided evidence that showed it was circulating much earlier than I had long thought.
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maklelan wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Now I see a fair question here.
Maklelan, do you have a recent example of sometime when you've changed your mind because the evidence required it?


Yes. Ehrman's book How Jesus Became God changed my mind on how early the notion of Christ's preexistence was. Ehrman provided evidence that showed it was circulating much earlier than I had long thought.

Yeah, well let Ehrman save you then.
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Servant wrote:Yeah, well let Ehrman save you then.


:lol:

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Servant wrote:Yeah, well let Ehrman save you then.


Again we're back to dogmatism. None of this has anything to do with salvation. It has entirely and exclusively to do with what the biblical texts say.
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