Why maklelan can't win a debate with me

[_maklelan]

[quote="Servant"
No you haven't,[/quote]

Yes I have. Pay better attention. Remember that time it took four posts for you to stop yelling at me long enough to realize I had been agreeing with you the whole time? Yeah, it's kinda that same when I present arguments that go scorching by miles over your head. You ignore it and pretend it never happened. Pay better attention.

[_Servant]

No, mak, I've learned over the years that you always make claims of having refuted everything, but you come up empty-handed all the time. It's silly to continue debating -you are a legend in your own mind, mak.

[_maklelan]

No, mak, I've learned over the years that you always make claims of having refuted everything, but you come up empty-handed all the time. It's silly to continue debating -you are a legend in your own mind, mak.

So when you challenged me on John 1:1 and I provided my own research on the verse, why did you never respond to a word of it?

[_Servant]

No, mak, I've learned over the years that you always make claims of having refuted everything, but you come up empty-handed all the time. It's silly to continue debating -you are a legend in your own mind, mak.

So when you challenged me on John 1:1 and I provided my own research on the verse, why did you never respond to a word of it?

And there is plenty of other real research out there proving your Arian conclusions are simply wrong (I could say that your conclusions are sectarian bigotry, but why stoop to your level?). I'm thinking, however, that you are an Arian Fundamentalist!

Read actual scholarship here: http://vintage.aomin.org/JOHN1_1.html

Of course, you can always get a job with the Watchtower Society if you want to continue attacking Christ's Deity.

[_Mittens]

[quote="Servant"
No you haven't,

Yes I have. Pay better attention. Remember that time it took four posts for you to stop yelling at me long enough to realize I had been agreeing with you the whole time? Yeah, it's kinda that same when I present arguments that go scorching by miles over your head. You ignore it and pretend it never happened. Pay better attention.[/quote]


WOW !! maklelan is smarter and is more scholarly than Julius Mantey :lol:

I wonder if maklelan is know outside these little forums

[Guest]

And there is plenty of other real research out there proving your Arian conclusions are simply wrong

Show me.

(I could say that your conclusions are sectarian bigotry, but why stoop to your level?).

Because it would be a demonstrable falsehood. Of course, you're not at all concerned with posting demonstrable falsehoods, so I guess it remains a live question.

I'm thinking, however, that you are an Arian Fundamentalist!

And that's just asinine.

Read actual scholarship here: http://vintage.aomin.org/JOHN1_1.html

I already linked you to my case against James White. If you wish to appeal to him, you're going to have to resolve the issues I've raised. Obviously, you can't.

Of course, you can always get a job with the Watchtower Society if you want to continue attacking Christ's Deity.

Or I could just continue within the academy, which really has little to nothing to do with sectarianism and who's theologically acceptable. That's the difference between scholarship and sectarianism: we consider the arguments and the evidence, not whether or not we feel the other is a heretic.

[_maklelan]

WOW !! maklelan is smarter and is more scholarly than Julius Mantey

I wonder if maklelan is know outside these little forums:lol:

No, I'm not know anywhere outside these little forums.

[_Mittens]

Do you think Julius Mantey is ?

[Guest]

WOW !! maklelan is smarter and is more scholarly than Julius Mantey



No, I'm not know anywhere outside these little forums.

Well, frankly mak, you could be if you'd broaden your horizons. You are remarkably smart and have good retention in terms of facts. I know that you are very locked into Utah and the LDS - but maybe in the future you'll have offers that you can utilize to extend those skills to a wider setting.

In case you didn't know it, I'm not the "one liner" so-called apologists you'll find on CARM who thinks picketing Mormon temples is a Christian act. I don't think it is. I don't believe it is "missionary work" to attend Mormon wards and attempt to proselytize Mormons. For those reason, I am often ostracized from the cliché at CARM. Intellectual give and take - dialogue, that's what is important. I'm quite open to having Mormons having their own beliefs and respecting their right to do so. I didn't see Paul or Silas picketing in the New Testament, nor are we commanded to do so.

Also, I don't believe a Christian has to be down the line with evangelicals or "fundamentalism" to be a Christian - since the Bible's only qualifier is, "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved." Those evangelicals who say you must understand the mechanics of soteriology are simply wrong. Catholics who believe in the Lord Jesus are just as saved as some Southern Baptist fundie. Also, I've personally been censored regarding my eschatology. I don't care - Cranmer never was much for the End Times thing. So, I'm more liberal than those you might meet on CARM who characterize Catholicism as a cult - and probably think of Anglicans in that way as well.

I'd really like you to at least consider the other side. I don't have any ill-will toward you at all. You are very successful as a young man, and have great potential. My prayer is that you will use those talents in service to Christ. I think you may just do so one day.

[_maklelan]

Well, frankly mak, you could be if you'd broaden your horizons.

I'm joking, Catherine. You know that.

You are remarkably smart and have good retention in terms of facts. I know that you are very locked into Utah and the LDS - but maybe in the future you'll have offers that you can utilize to extend those skills to a wider setting.

I already have.

In case you didn't know it, I'm not the "one liner" so-called apologists you'll find on CARM who thinks picketing Mormon temples is a Christian act. I don't think it is. I don't believe it is "missionary work" to attend Mormon wards and attempt to proselytize Mormons. For those reason, I am often ostracized from the cliché at CARM. Intellectual give and take - dialogue, that's what is important.

You don't ever seem willing to engage any of the dialogue I offer.

I'm quite open to having Mormons having their own beliefs and respecting their right to do so. I didn't see Paul or Silas picketing in the New Testament, nor are we commanded to do so.

Also, I don't believe a Christian has to be down the line with evangelicals or "fundamentalism" to be a Christian - since the Bible's only qualifier is, "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved."

And yet you frequently insist that one must believe on the proper conceptualization of Christ's relationship to God. You always expand upon that brief little definition.

I've personally been censored my eschatology. I don't care - Cranmer never was much for the End Times thing.

I'd really like you to at least consider the other side. I don't have any ill-will toward you at all. You are very successful as a young man, and have great potential. My prayer is that you will use those talents in service to Christ.

I do.