Mittens wrote:I can't believe Maklelan thinks he's is qualified to speak about the Bible when he's so clueless
Yes, that's what they said when they presented my award for best dissertation of the year at Oxford.
Mittens wrote:There is plenty of Christian writers teaching the Trinity in first century like Didache and Clement of Rome { A.D. 75 } and Hermas { A.D. 78-85 } teaching the Trinity. 2nd century Ignatius { A.D. 110-120 } Justin Martr { A.D. 114-168 } Irenaeus [ A.D. 115-190 } a disciple of Polycarp. Theophilus { A.D. 116-181 } said” In like manner also the three days which were luminaries, are types of the Trinity, of God, and his Word, and his wisdom.”
But the Trinity is not God, Jesus, and Wisdom. Most Christians would say Wisdom is Jesus. Also, Theophilus says humanity is the fourth. None of your others come close.
Mittens wrote:In the third century came Tertullian, Hippolytus, Origen, and Novatian, teaching the Trinity also.
And also not teaching the Trinity that was formalized at Nicea. The Trinity was a long and slow development, and the version to which you hold today simply did not exist prior to the third century.
Mittens wrote:I can't believe Maklelan thinks he's is qualified to speak about the Bible when he's so clueless
Yes, that's what they said when they presented my award for best dissertation of the year at Oxford.
Mittens wrote:There is plenty of Christian writers teaching the Trinity in first century like Didache and Clement of Rome { A.D. 75 } and Hermas { A.D. 78-85 } teaching the Trinity. 2nd century Ignatius { A.D. 110-120 } Justin Martr { A.D. 114-168 } Irenaeus [ A.D. 115-190 } a disciple of Polycarp. Theophilus { A.D. 116-181 } said” In like manner also the three days which were luminaries, are types of the Trinity, of God, and his Word, and his wisdom.”
But the Trinity is not God, Jesus, and Wisdom. Most Christians would say Wisdom is Jesus. Also, Theophilus says humanity is the fourth. None of your others come close.
Mittens wrote:In the third century came Tertullian, Hippolytus, Origen, and Novatian, teaching the Trinity also.
And also not teaching the Trinity that was formalized at Nicea. The Trinity was a long and slow development, and the version to which you hold today simply did not exist prior to the third century.
How many of these Trinitarian lived before the council of Nicaea ?
Didache and Clement of Rome { A.D. 75 } and Hermas { A.D. 78-85 } teaching the Trinity. 2nd century Ignatius { A.D. 110-120 } Justin Martr { A.D. 114-168 } Irenaeus [ A.D. 115-190 } a disciple of Polycarp. Theophilus { A.D. 116-181 }
So you think Oxford has a decrement for Biblical Apologetics or more of an agenda of attacking God's Word
You got it for doing Satan's bidding, how many Mormon so-called Apostles graduated from Oxford ?
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Justice = Getting what you deserve Mercy = Not getting what you deserve Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
Mittens wrote: So you think Oxford has a decrement for Biblical Apologetics or more of an agenda of attacking God's Word
You got it for doing Satan's bidding
Good grief.
Exactly an agent of the god of this world
2 Corinthians 4
1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 7But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Justice = Getting what you deserve Mercy = Not getting what you deserve Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
Mittens wrote: Only in your mind, I have the God of Heaven and Earth on my side , you have no chance except in your delusional thoughts
2 thess . 2:
New International Version For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
So the fact that you abandoned all these attempts to defend your fundamentalist readings of the biblical text like they were on fire is just an illusion?
Mittens wrote: Only in your mind, I have the God of Heaven and Earth on my side , you have no chance except in your delusional thoughts
2 thess . 2:
New International Version For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
So the fact that you abandoned all these attempts to defend your fundamentalist readings of the biblical text like they were on fire is just an illusion?
fundamentalist views are produced from the Bible, your views are from men who do nothing but attack God's Holy Word .
Justice = Getting what you deserve Mercy = Not getting what you deserve Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
Believe it or not, Mittens, maklelan is far from the only one who thinks you are being humiliated (or, rather, humiliating yourself) in this discussion.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
