Why maklelan can't win a debate with me

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maklelan wrote:
Mittens wrote:fundamentalist views are produced from the Bible, your views are from men who do nothing but attack God's Holy Word.


No, fundamentalist views are produced from socio-political necessity and propped up by selective readings of the Bible.


Why do I hear a CACOPHONY of rhetoric from maklelan but no citing of his claims. Just rhetoric :lol:
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Mittens wrote:Why do I hear a CACOPHONY of rhetoric from maklelan but no citing of his claims. Just rhetoric :lol:


No, you know that's a lie. I'm the only one who's been giving evidence for my claims.
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You're missing the point entirely. I am well aware that you can rationalize away problems with the development of the Trinity. What you don't appear willing or able to acknowledge is that showing you can convince yourself of this is not helpful in this context. You've got to be able to show your dogmatism makes sense to someone not already entirely committed to it, and in that you fail before you even get started.


I'm not missing the point. You are. And I'm not out to convince you, but the readers, who I am confident can judge for themselves. Your bigoted views will never allow you to be uncommitted from your own Mormon based dogmatism. That is why you are the one who fails.
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grindael wrote:I'm not missing the point. You are. And I'm not out to convince you, but the readers, who I am confident can judge for themselves.


Well, so far they're not siding with you.

grindael wrote:Your bigoted views will never allow you to be uncommitted from your own Mormon based dogmatism. That is why you are the one who fails.


That you can't distinguish between my academic positions and Mormonism is really laughable.
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/peterenns/ ... niel-kirk/

Interesting blog on inerrency. Seems evangelicals have changed positions based on evidence, Mittens. I changed my view on the Bible based on evidence by people like Peter Enns. I changed my view of the Book of Abraham and Book of Mormon also on basis of evidence.

I do not campaign against Mormons at temples etc because I have progressed to the Christian Universalist position of people like Lewis, William Barkley and even Alvin Plantinga.

Read the Old Testament book by book and you get murder, rape, incest, etnnic cleansing, crazy laws.
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maklelan wrote:
grindael wrote:I'm not missing the point. You are. And I'm not out to convince you, but the readers, who I am confident can judge for themselves.


Well, so far they're not siding with you.

grindael wrote:Your bigoted views will never allow you to be uncommitted from your own Mormon based dogmatism. That is why you are the one who fails.


That you can't distinguish between my academic positions and Mormonism is really laughable.


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maklelan wrote:
grindael wrote:I'm not missing the point. You are. And I'm not out to convince you, but the readers, who I am confident can judge for themselves.


Well, so far they're not siding with you.


Who is "they"? Two people? And Tobin? :lol:
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grindael wrote:Who is "they"? Two people? And Tobin? :lol:


Against you all by yourself. So far not a single person agrees with your grotesque misreading of my comments. It's crystal clear, grindael. Why can't you listen to reason?
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maklelan wrote:
grindael wrote:Who is "they"? Two people? And Tobin? :lol:


Against you all by yourself. So far not a single person agrees with your grotesque misreading of my comments. It's crystal clear, grindael. Why can't you listen to reason?


Reason, from you? Now that's an oxymoron. And over 6000 people have viewed these two threads. I don't see multitudes coming and sticking up for you, Daniel. You got a couple of people who are friendly with you to agree with you, and many are simply not commenting about this at all. Oh my, now that's scientific. You do know how ridiculous you sound, don't you?
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grindael wrote:Reason, from you? Now that's an oxymoron. And over 6000 people have viewed these two threads. I don't see multitudes coming and sticking up for you, Daniel.


There are a lot of lurkers here, and most of those views occurred before you arrived. I see exactly zero people coming to defend you, though.

grindael wrote:You got a couple of people who are friendly with you to agree with you,


No, that's not it.

grindael wrote:and many are simply not commenting about this at all. Oh my, now that's scientific. You do know how ridiculous you sound, don't you?


I know how ridiculous you sound.
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