Bible verse by verse

[_The Erotic Apologist]

You obviously didn't click on the video taped clip where the priest was... But the point is MOST obvious. Even you should finally get it!

Yes, I watched the video segment with the priest. He (like you) completely misses the distinction between discussing Creationism in a classroom setting versus adding it to a curriculum.

I suspect I know a little more about this than you do, seeing as how my wife is an educator.

Again, this is why you need to READ these articles before post links to them.

[_LittleNipper]

You obviously didn't click on the video taped clip where the priest was... But the point is MOST obvious. Even you should finally get it!

Yes, I watched the video segment with the priest. He (like you) completely misses the distinction between discussing Creationism in a classroom setting versus adding it to a curriculum.

I suspect I know a little more about this than you do, seeing as how my wife is an educator.

Again, this is why you need to READ these articles before post links to them.

My wife is a private educator. In fact, she teaches not just a few students whose parents are public school teachers ----- because those parents are very aware of the inadequacies of public schools. And they want more for their own children and grandchildren.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

My wife is a private educator.

In that case you should know it's not forbidden to discuss the Bible and Creationism in public schools. To assert otherwise (as you have repeatedly done) is less than honest--are you doing this on purpose?

In fact, she teaches not just a few students whose parents are public school teachers ----- because those parents are very aware of the inadequacies of public schools.

See above.

And they want more for their own children and grandchildren.

Irrelevant.

[_maklelan]

The Lord killed Goliath through David a shepherd boy. There was more than one giant man, and they were related. That is what I believe and you are free to accept the Book of Mormon.

So you cannot address the facts or the evidence, and just settle for asserting your arbitrary belief. Bravo.

[_maklelan]

And you should have told Marklelan that when he made his remark. Now if you are really interested in the issue surrounding who killed Goliath you may wish to consider this: http://www.apologeticspress.org/apconte ... rticle=752

Why would anyone ever really want to consider anything Gleason Archer has to say? He was a pseudo-academic joke.

[_maklelan]

That is fine; however, you should have informed "Mak" that he should be treating others as he wishes to be treated. Please see: http://informationaboutgod.com/articles ... oliath.php

My comments already address all this nonsense. Just asserting without evidence that "Lahmi the brother of" was changed to "Bethlehemite" is nonsensical. As I've said, no Philistine would ever name their child "Lahmi." There's also no reason for them to make that change. Going the other way is perfectly logical, though, and it fixes a serious problem in the text. You lost this argument before you ever knew it existed.

[_maklelan]

Well, your not mine either. There are very learned professors who can read ancient Hebrew.

I can read ancient Hebrew.

And since you are not willing to accept their learned opinions, I cannot help but imagine anyone in disagreement with your values would not be simply ignored or slighted.

You refuse to accept my learned opinion, and I'm the only one here who can engage the "learned opinions" you keep finding with Google's help.

[_maklelan]

Please see: http://informationaboutgod.com/articles ... oliath.php
Also view this from the UK: http://www.ukapologetics.net/13/goliath.htm

These all the say the same thing over and over again, and not a one of them address the evidence I brought up.

[_Quasimodo]

Please see: http://informationaboutgod.com/articles ... oliath.php
Also view this from the UK: http://www.ukapologetics.net/13/goliath.htm

These all the say the same thing over and over again, and not a one of them address the evidence I brought up.

By now you must have realized that the Nipper is unshakeable in his beliefs, whatever evidence you propose to him. That's one of the reasons that I decided that it was pointless to continue the discussions with him on this thread. You must know people that are like that at work.

I actually really like Nipper. He seems to be a decent guy. He is just so confirmed in his beliefs that no logic will move him.

I often wonder if people that drink the kool-aid are happier than people like me that require some proof of their beliefs.

[_ludwigm]

I actually really like Nipper.

As do I. He shows us the path to avoid during wandering through the life.

He seems to be a decent guy.

Unfortunately, this doesn't make him .. khm khm .. nimble-minded.

He is just so confirmed in his beliefs that no logic will move him.

And this makes him to be on topic in Mormon forums...

I often wonder if people that drink the kool-aid are happier than people like me that require some proof of their beliefs.

Then, probably You wouldn't take the plunge into a swimming pool in darkness, without checking that it is not empty...

A few years ago (2008.03.29) there was in Hungary a casualty when somebody did it. After sauna, he ran out to the unlighted external area (the system was winterized) ---
Imagine!