Thorwald wrote:There is no point in discussing the Bible, unless both parties involved in the discussion believe in the Bible. Common sense dictates this.
A more stupid comment posted on a discussion board I have yet to see.
not very celestial of you is it?.....and....obviously you never read your own posts.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
subgenius wrote:not very celestial of you is it?.....and....obviously you never read your own posts.
I am addressing the posters comment, not the poster, therefore I am not in breach of the Celestial rules. I have no reason to suspect that Thorwald is stupid, nor am I calling Thorwald stupid. I'm saying that the idea that 'it is common sense that there is no point in discussing the Bible unless all parties in the discussion hold the same belief about it' is stupid.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
SteelHead wrote:Sub, A common belief in something/the Bible is not necessary to discuss it. Knowledge and understanding of the topic are.
Neither knowledge of or understanding of the topic were being displayed by the poster's response. And with regards to the context of the discussion, a belief in the Bible, common or not, would be necessary.
So, contrary to your generic assertion here, sometimes a common belief is necessary and sometimes it is not. .. context.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
SteelHead wrote:You didn't answer the question about interpretation. Do I have to interpret various sundry verses the same as you to participate?
Bump for Thorwald
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
SteelHead wrote:Sub, A common belief in something/the Bible is not necessary to discuss it. Knowledge and understanding of the topic are.
Neither knowledge of or understanding of the topic were being displayed by the poster's response. And with regards to the context of the discussion, a belief in the Bible, common or not, would be necessary.
So, contrary to your generic assertion here, sometimes a common belief is necessary and sometimes it is not. .. context.
So you assert.......... Wheeeeeee.
But it really just looks like a thin attempt to limit discussion.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
Because the whole idea of the holy ghost with a turkey baster full of God's seed, or in vitro fertilization for Jesus with Mary as a surrogate womb, is just so darn biblical that only believers in an innerant and literal Bible can discuss it?
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
SteelHead wrote: So you assert.......... Wheeeeeee.
But it really just looks like a thin attempt to limit discussion.
Common sense reveals that it was not a thin attempt at all, but a rather blatant statement for the obvious. The discussion "limit" was already exceeded by your comments as measured against the context of the OP and the value of statements being made like "Yeah...because a supernatural 'ghost'...".
Context, relevance, and common sense are indeed "limits' to a discussion...otherwise it is not a discussion at all, but rather just a masturbation exercise for you, Bazooka, and other posters who consistently disrupt or disregard topics with opinions that are out of bounds merely for the sake of being out of bounds.....which is not common sense...it is usually just nonsense.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
SteelHead wrote:Because the whole idea of the holy ghost with a turkey baster full of God's seed, or in vitro fertilization for Jesus with Mary as a surrogate womb, is just so darn biblical that only believers in an innerant and literal Bible can discuss it?
No, "discussion" would be limited to those with the ability to transcend such sophomoric and cliché comments as "turkey baster full of God's seed". So, perhaps you are correct in that "belief" is not necessary to participate in the discussion...but maturity certainly is...but barring that, making comments like "turkey baster" serve only to humor yourself and exhibit no real "knowledge" of the topic...and this "knowledge" you claim is a requirement...soooo......be on your way.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent