"My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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"My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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When Jesus asked His Father why He had forsaken Him, He did the right thing. The Christian ministers teach us, that The Lord God Almighty had looked away for a moment, when Jesus took on the 'sins of the world'. This is total RUBBISH.

Jesus is THE WORD. His whole purpose on this earth, was to teach us the truth [THE WORD OF GOD], and provide us with Himself, as an unblemished SACRIFICE. In the book of Revelation, we find that Jesus was 'destined' to do so, before creation. Before any 'creation' by The Lord God Almighty and Jesus [Lord of Hosts] took place, it was known that there would have to be a 'saviour', and Jesus knew that it would have to be Himself.

When Jesus was on the cross, He thought that His 'job' was done. He was wrong. There was one more 'hurdle' He had to overcome. Jesus, as Son of Man, had to be found worthy,...UNTIL THE END, as each of us must, in order to become sons/daughters of God.

The Lord God Almighty did NOT forsake Jesus. Satan was allowed to tempt Jesus. You could not get any closer to the 'end', than being in the position that Christ was in, on the cross. Jesus faced the possibility of having His legs broken, in order to speed His death, as was the custom during the Passover. Jesus also knew that He had told the disciples that The Father had promised Him, that no man could take His life, but rather, Jesus was given the power to give up His own life, and take it back again. This was commanded by The Father. Had Jesus 'cursed' The Father [assuming The Father had lied to Him], we would not have a saviour, today. He did the right thing. He sought wisdom from The Father [GOD]. He passed the test, and then gave up His carnal life.
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Re: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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So Jesus asks why he has been forsaken, when he hasn't been forsaken?

Clear as mud?
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Re: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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SteelHead wrote:So Jesus asks why he has been forsaken, when he hasn't been forsaken?

Clear as mud?


Yes! If Jesus had been 'forsaken', then The Father would have had to have 'lied' to Him. Don't you 'get it'? He would have had to have broken His OWN commandments. This is like saying, "God does evil." He did not do so. Jesus assumed that His job was finished. It was NOT.
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Re: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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Hang on...I thought the Bible was THE WORD....or was it both God and Jesus who were collectively THE WORD....
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Re: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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Bazooka wrote:Hang on...I thought the Bible was THE WORD....or was it both God and Jesus who were collectively THE WORD....


"And the Word which ye hear, is not mine, but The Father's who sent me."
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Thorwald wrote:"And the Word which ye hear, is not mine, but The Father's who sent me."

The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together. You must learn the ways of the Force if your are to come with me Alderaan.

(I can play this game, too! :mrgreen: )
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
Thorwald wrote:"And the Word which ye hear, is not mine, but The Father's who sent me."

The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together. You must learn the ways of the Force if your are to come with me Alderaan.

(I can play this game, too! :mrgreen: )


What is your problem with my posting, SATAN?
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God requiring the death of Jesus in order to grant us with redemption breaks the commandment to not kill.
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Re: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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just me wrote:God requiring the death of Jesus in order to grant us with redemption breaks the commandment to not kill.


So who exactly, did Jesus kill?
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Thorwald wrote:What is your problem with my posting, SATAN?
What makes you think I have a problem with your post, BEELZEBUB?
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