There are hundreds of translations of the original writings (that were not in English) that made it into the current Bible.
There are millions of interpretations of those translations.
Hmmm
What is the logical conclusion here?
God is not the author of the Bible. Humans wrote it and compiled it. Translated it and interpreted it. They all pray and all get different answers.
A loving God cannot find fault with humans when he did such a lousy job of getting the message to us.
A different picture, The Bible is a result of inspiration from God and it communicates quite well what God wants to get across. The problem is that what God wants to get across is simple and basic but people are always trying to avoid that and instead find a lot of details to argue over. God choose not to clarify those details, He just doesn't care much about that stuff.
Thorwald wrote: Common sense tells us, that The Holy Spirit guided the 'authors' of the KJV Bible.
Common sense tells us no such thing. At all.
He is the Spirit of Truth.
Says who? The Bible? Circular reasoning.
God made certain that His Word always remained.
Says who? Again with the circular reasoning.
There are very few 'errors', and these errors do not change any of His commands or prophecies.
There are tons of errors. TONS. There are also tons of conflicting stories and ideas. And lots of things that fly in the face of logic and sound reason. Translating something ancient into a different language where words have totally different meanings means that by necessity there are errors and changes to what the meaning and original intent was.
The real problem is in the 'new bibles' that have been created by man, without the authorization from God.
You have no proof that god authorized King James to translate the Bible into his own version. Do you even know anything about King James? What was so great about him and his translators that gave them the godly authorization?
These authors will see the same fate as the two sons of Aaron [book of Leviticus] and all other 'false prophets'.
Says who? LMAO Is it the Bible? round and round we go....
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huckelberry wrote: A different picture, The Bible is a result of inspiration from God and it communicates quite well what God wants to get across. The problem is that what God wants to get across is simple and basic but people are always trying to avoid that and instead find a lot of details to argue over. God choose not to clarify those details, He just doesn't care much about that stuff.
Then he doesn't care about humans or our lives at all in which case this is all a moot point.
If he is content to allow billions of human lives to be lost in the name of religion he is a jackass that does not deserve our worship.
If the simple and basic message is love, then it has been lost on so many people as to make the Bible is worse than toilet paper.
If god doesn't care then why on earth should we?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
I am amazed at how little knowledge of the scriptures and the wisdom to interpret them, is reflected in the postings to this thread.
There are basically 'four' who are anointed in the Old Testament...the children of Israel, kings, priests and prophets. In the New Testament, we find that Apostles are anointed.
It is at our request, that God allowed us to have a 'representative' [king] of God here on earth, so that we could visually see this representative. God agreed, but also made us aware of the 'corruption' we would face from many of these 'kings'.
The KJV Bible was created by decree of King James. He wanted all people to be able to know the 'truth' [the written Word of God] without the addition of 'practices' carried out by various churches.
Since King James (and all other kings/queens) are ALLOWED AND ANOINTED BY GOD, why would we stray from the KJV Bible? Why would we accept any other 'Bible' which has NOT been created by a person(s) ANOINTED BY GOD?
huckelberry wrote: A different picture, The Bible is a result of inspiration from God and it communicates quite well what God wants to get across. The problem is that what God wants to get across is simple and basic but people are always trying to avoid that and instead find a lot of details to argue over. God choose not to clarify those details, He just doesn't care much about that stuff.
Then he doesn't care about humans or our lives at all in which case this is all a moot point.
If he is content to allow billions of human lives to be lost in the name of religion he is a jackass that does not deserve our worship.
If the simple and basic message is love, then it has been lost on so many people as to make the Bible is worse than toilet paper.
If god doesn't care then why on earth should we?
"content to allow billions of human lives to be lost"
Just me , You have completely reversed the meaning of my comment. Perhaps you assume I am defending a fundamentalism which believes people are lost unless they get a b or better on the theology exam or must accept the correct religion. I was intending to step out side that sort of thing entirely in order to see the patterns of Gods help and concern reaching to all people.
Thorwald wrote: Common sense tells us, that The Holy Spirit guided the 'authors' of the KJV Bible.
Common sense tells us no such thing. At all.
He is the Spirit of Truth.
Says who? The Bible? Circular reasoning.
God made certain that His Word always remained.
Says who? Again with the circular reasoning.
There are very few 'errors', and these errors do not change any of His commands or prophecies.
There are tons of errors. TONS. There are also tons of conflicting stories and ideas. And lots of things that fly in the face of logic and sound reason. Translating something ancient into a different language where words have totally different meanings means that by necessity there are errors and changes to what the meaning and original intent was.
The real problem is in the 'new bibles' that have been created by man, without the authorization from God.
You have no proof that god authorized King James to translate the Bible into his own version. Do you even know anything about King James? What was so great about him and his translators that gave them the godly authorization?
These authors will see the same fate as the two sons of Aaron [book of Leviticus] and all other 'false prophets'.
Says who? LMAO Is it the Bible? round and round we go....
The Bible tells us this and Jesus Christ eluded to "this". And the "this" is that the Holy Spirit guided the 'authors' of the Bible --- not the KJV translation and not the NIV translation, but the original transcripts written in the original tongues (namely Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek). I do believe that the moving of the Holy Spirit assisted in the translation of the Bible into a very excellent English version.
The postings on this thread have lost sight of the original purpose that the thread was created for. I'd like to go back to the original 'topic', for a moment.
The scriptures tell us, that GOD [The Lord God Almighty] is a jealous God. We must GLORIFY and WORSHIP HIM, only. It is HE who is sitting on the throne of God in Revelation, chapter 4. I was shown in my vision, that there are four figures [not three] who make up the Trinity [Father, Son and Holy Ghost] and the Godhead [the SON of the Trinity and His only begotten Son Jesus]. The scriptures I provided as proof of this in my original thread, bear this out. They tie into the vision.
The current understanding of this topic by the Christian ministry is wrong. They have thrown God off of His throne, and put His Father on the throne in His place. At the end of my dream in 'riddles', I told God that I would 'fix' this error. This is the most important 'job' that I have to do. This is what I am really interested in, although I enjoy all other posted topics as well.
I want you to consider the book of Revelation, and what it tells us, concerning the new Jerusalem;
1) The dimensions of the new city are given to us. 2) The light comes from the throne of God. 3) The gates will be left open. 4) No one from inside will go out through the gates. 5) No one (the rejects) who is outside can enter in through the gates. 6) Those inside will have a name that only God knows. 7) There will be angels singing hymns to God day and night, forever.
The above 'items' let us know, just how much God wants us to worship and glorify Him. Those who did so on earth, are His chosen, and will receive some sort of 'status' (The scriptures mention 'mansions'). There are also those who believe in Christ and have been saved, even if they did not worship God as the 'chosen' have. There are many who, like Christ, have experienced various amounts of persecution, even being killed for their efforts.
The scriptures tell us, that the road to heaven, is very narrow, and only a few will travel this road.
Given that God MUST BE GLORIFIED AND WORSHIPPED, how do you think He feels about being 'kicked off of His throne' and replaced by His Father (Who has NEVER been seen by man, nor has ANY man ever heard His voice, at ANY time?
LittleNipper wrote:The Bible tells us this and Jesus Christ eluded to "this".
Eluded???
Nipper, please stop what you're doing and look up "eluded" in the dictionary.
LittleNipper wrote:And the "this" is that the Holy Spirit guided the 'authors' of the Bible --- not the KJV translation and not the NIV translation, but the original transcripts written in the original tongues (namely Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek). I do believe that the moving of the Holy Spirit assisted in the translation of the Bible into a very excellent English version.
Nipper, which of the extant Biblical "transcripts" were written in "Aramaic"?
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LittleNipper wrote:The Bible tells us this and Jesus Christ eluded to "this". And the "this" is that the Holy Spirit guided the 'authors' of the Bible --- not the KJV translation and not the NIV translation, but the original transcripts written in the original tongues (namely Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek). I do believe that the moving of the Holy Spirit assisted in the translation of the Bible into a very excellent English version.
It's great to have Nipper, Nightlion, BC, Subgenious, Droopy and now Thorwald telling us exactly what God had in mind. If we could only get them all together and agree on what God said, we would have all the answers.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
LittleNipper wrote:The Bible tells us this and Jesus Christ eluded to "this". And the "this" is that the Holy Spirit guided the 'authors' of the Bible --- not the KJV translation and not the NIV translation, but the original transcripts written in the original tongues (namely Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek). I do believe that the moving of the Holy Spirit assisted in the translation of the Bible into a very excellent English version.
It's great to have Nipper, Nightlion, BC, Subgenious, Droopy and now Thorwald telling us exactly what God had in mind. If we could only get them all together and agree on what God said, we would have all the answers.
I think all six of these guys need to have their own dedicated thread where they can denounce each other as false prophets. And Tobin, too. We can't forget Tobin.
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I pray thee, sir, forgive me for the mess. And whether I shot first, I'll not confess. --Han Solo, from William Shakespeare's Star Wars
