"My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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Re: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

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Thorwald wrote:
just me wrote:God requiring the death of Jesus in order to grant us with redemption breaks the commandment to not kill.


So who exactly, did Jesus kill?


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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
Thorwald wrote:What is your problem with my posting, SATAN?
What makes you think I have a problem with your post, BEELZEBUB?


OMG laughing so hard!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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just me wrote:God requiring the death of Jesus in order to grant us with redemption breaks the commandment to not kill.


God is our supreme creator. His laws are in place for us and the angels. He, along with His Son, The Lord of Hosts, make up The Godhead. He is our JUDGE [vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. I will repay.].

Even though Christ was crucified by man, no man was allowed to kill Him. Christ Himself gave up His life on the cross. Remember, that within the carnal body of Christ [The Son of Man], was Jesus as Lord of Hosts. He had the power to do ANYTHING.

God has killed many human beings, the flood being the greatest example.
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Thorwald wrote:
just me wrote:God requiring the death of Jesus in order to grant us with redemption breaks the commandment to not kill.


God is our supreme creator. His laws are in place for us and the angels. He, along with His Son, The Lord of Hosts, make up The Godhead. He is our JUDGE [vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. I will repay.].

Even though Christ was crucified by man, no man was allowed to kill Him. Christ Himself gave up His life on the cross. Remember, that within the carnal body of Christ [The Son of Man], was Jesus as Lord of Hosts. He had the power to do ANYTHING.

God has killed many human beings, the flood being the greatest example.


So, god's a genocidal maniac and suicidal. Why are you worshipping this bloke?
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just me wrote:
Thorwald wrote:
God is our supreme creator. His laws are in place for us and the angels. He, along with His Son, The Lord of Hosts, make up The Godhead. He is our JUDGE [vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. I will repay.].

Even though Christ was crucified by man, no man was allowed to kill Him. Christ Himself gave up His life on the cross. Remember, that within the carnal body of Christ [The Son of Man], was Jesus as Lord of Hosts. He had the power to do ANYTHING.

God has killed many human beings, the flood being the greatest example.


So, god's a genocidal maniac and suicidal. Why are you worshipping this bloke?

Because of Adam's sin --- sin entered into the human equation (sin became natural). Because of sin --- EVERYONE is worthy of Hell. It is God who chose to redeem those willing to believe on Him for their salvation. Salvation is the gift of God. Hell is what everyone deserves because of what they are. So, the simple fact is that God made a provision that some refuse to accept. And this is why people go to hell. It is sin that is slowly bringing everyone to the point of death. It is a loving God who attempts to save them from that eternal separation. It is funny that atheists always seem to blame God yet never point one finger at Satan.
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Yeah, because Satan is the one who flooded the earth. Satan was the one who rained fire on Sodom and Gomorrah. Satan is responsible for ordering the deaths of every man, woman, and child who wasn't Hebrew when the Hebrews entered the Holy Land. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
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souldier wrote:Yeah, because Satan is the one who flooded the earth. Satan was the one who rained fire on Sodom and Gomorrah. Satan is responsible for ordering the deaths of every man, woman, and child who wasn't Hebrew when the Hebrews entered the Holy Land. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

this type of rant always reminds me of how teenage children behave towards their parents.
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"To find a diamond in the dumpster, you'll have to get dirty." (-Buddha I think)

There's good in Mormonism & Christianity & the Bible, but remember the doctrines are written by imperfect people like us. I feel bad for Jesus having his words twisted into worshipping HIM as human sacrifice scapegoat.

Jesus never asked to be worshipped & even warned against it.
What are we being saved from? A "loving" God who hates how he/she created us as imperfect works in progress? Why and how would killing someone like Jesus appease a God who commanded "thou shalt not kill"?

If it helps you feel and be more loving, believe Jesus as personification of Spirituality. Too often, though, I see such a belief as a way to avoid response-ability. And if you doubt some, realize that if Jesus could doubt, then maybe doubt is a necessary component to faith.
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souldier wrote:Yeah, because Satan is the one who flooded the earth. Satan was the one who rained fire on Sodom and Gomorrah. Satan is responsible for ordering the deaths of every man, woman, and child who wasn't Hebrew when the Hebrews entered the Holy Land. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Well, you might read the book of Job. But I imagine Satan is the one who brought The Flood and rained fire on the sexual dissidents in the cities of the plains. He is the accuser. God would have allowed him those moments because Satan is the angel who is the present ruler of all earth (though because of Christ those days are numbered). God did save those who would listen to His warnings.

Job 1:6-12 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
6 It happened one day that the sons of God came to serve Adonai, and among them came the Adversary. 7 Adonai asked the Adversary, “Where are you coming from?” The Adversary answered Adonai, “From roaming through the earth, wandering here and there.” 8 Adonai asked the Adversary, “Did you notice my servant Iyov, that there’s no one like him on earth, a blameless and upright man who fears God and shuns evil?” 9 The Adversary answered Adonai, “Is it for nothing that Iyov fears God? 10 You’ve put a protective hedge around him, his house and everything he has. You’ve prospered his work, and his livestock are spread out all over the land. 11 But if you reach out your hand and touch whatever he has, without doubt he’ll curse you to your face!” 12 Adonai said to the Adversary, “Here! Everything he has is in your hands, except that you are not to lay a finger on his person.” Then the Adversary went out from the presence of Adonai.
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just me wrote:God requiring the death of Jesus in order to grant us with redemption breaks the commandment to not kill.

God did not require anything. . The Law did. Similar concept to God being unable to lie or be unjust.
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