Bazooka wrote:I did. God says you are lying. Now what?
Thorwald wrote:You laugh now, but the scriptures tell us, that our life span on earth is like a 'vapour' compared to 'eternity'.
Those who do not believe in and follow the scriptures will face eternal darkness (since they loved it so much on earth during their lifetime), and there will be no rest for these people. They will thirst, and be hot, but there will be no water for them. They too will last forever, but will not be allowed into the new Jerusalem where the light for those who are within, comes from the throne of God.
Quasimodo wrote:It sounds like you are in real trouble now, Bazooka! Thorwald has damned you to Hell. Little did we know that Thorwald speaks for God. I'm sure I will see you in Hell when the time comes.
Do you think we can get a good bottle of wine in Hell to share? If it's Mormon Hell, I'll bet we can.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
It is amazing to find so many people on one forum that have no care where they are heading for after this life is over. The scriptures tell us, that unless you are found worthy until the end [of your life here on earth], you will face total darkness, and there will be gnashing of teeth day and night, forever. No one around you will be able to help you. They will be 'in the same boat' as you, forever separated from God. I find it hard to believe that anyone would desire to have this happen to them.
There is a 'holding area' for those who have died, and are awaiting the final judgement. For the saved, it is paradise. For those who are not saved, it is a form of hell. Read Luke 16:19-31.
To condemn anyone to an eternity of endless, excruciating torture merely for honest lack of faith or belief (or for any other reason, for that matter) would make the Christian God a worse and crueler villain and monster than even the worst tyrants and mass murderers in all of human history. I simply cannot believe in, much less worship and honor such a despicable monster. That the God Mormons worship does not do that is a strong point in his favor, compared to the God typical Christians believe in.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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Gunnar wrote:To condemn anyone to an eternity of endless, excruciating torture merely for honest lack of faith or belief (or for any other reason, for that matter) would make the Christian God a worse and crueler villain and monster than even the worst tyrants and mass murderers in all of human history. I simply cannot believe in, much less worship and honor such a despicable monster. That the God Mormons worship does not do that is a strong point in his favor, compared to the God typical Christians believe in.
If you step out of a plane flying 12000 feet above the earth without a parachute, you will likely die. Do you blame the parachute or the plane for this fact? Man turned away from God. God didn't turn away from man. God has provided the parachute; however, some refuse to wear it and simply jump out of the plane. That sounds like pride. The god of the Mormon is a man made designer god that fits his own values.
Gunnar wrote:To condemn anyone to an eternity of endless, excruciating torture merely for honest lack of faith or belief (or for any other reason, for that matter) would make the Christian God a worse and crueler villain and monster than even the worst tyrants and mass murderers in all of human history. I simply cannot believe in, much less worship and honor such a despicable monster. That the God Mormons worship does not do that is a strong point in his favor, compared to the God typical Christians believe in.
If you step out of a plane flying 12000 feet above the earth without a parachute, you will likely die. Do you blame the parachute or the plane for this fact? Man turned away from God. God didn't turn away from man. God has provided the parachute; however, some refuse to wear it and simply jump out of the plane. That sounds like pride. The god of the Mormon is a man made designer god that fits his own values.
Again, we are told in the scriptures, that God is a jealous God. Either we worship and glorify Him, or face eternal punishment. It is as simple as that. We must both fear and love God. We have no other alternative. Those who obey Him, will be rewarded. Those who do not will be separated from Him, for ever.
Thorwald wrote:Again, we are told in the scriptures, that God is a jealous God.
I'm pretty sure your Bible says jealousy is a sin.
If your god is a jealous god, and if jealousy is a sin, and if sin is evil, then your god is therefore an evil god. Q.E.D.
You are judging God. You are very close to the one sin that cannot be forgiven. God is directed by the Holy Spirit (The Spirit of Truth). By saying God is 'evil', using your own logic above, then are you not saying that the Holy Spirit is also evil?
No, I'm not. Please re-read my earlier post where I explain exactly what I'm doing. (If you're not going read other people's posts, why should they read yours?)
Thorwald wrote:You are very close to the one sin that cannot be forgiven.
Says the guy who's an anti-Semite and a neo-Nazi.
Thorwald wrote:God is directed by the Holy Spirit (The Spirit of Truth). By saying God is 'evil', using your own logic above, then are you not saying that the Holy Spirit is also evil?
In order for the spook to be evil it would first have to exist, right?
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Evidently, you have no God in you. Responding to your 'godless' postings benefits no one. I will not respond to any of your postings any longer. They are nothing more than garbage.
