problems with God

[_Amore]

Akame,
Your problem is not with God (Love/Objective truth).
It's with a particular herd mentality.
Now I'm seriously curious if you have a problem with ALL herd mentalities or just the Mormon one.

[_Amore]

Plus, ironically, subgenius seems unaware of the point that few things are more strongly correlated with or symptomatic of mental disorders than strong religiosity.

There's probably a VERY good reason for subgenius' lack of self awareness....

Trying to speak to the prevailing mentality?

[_DrW]

Plus, ironically, subgenius seems unaware of the point fact that few things are more strongly correlated with, or symptomatic of, mental disorders than strong religiosity.

It would seem that a number of folks who habitually post here on the "Celestial" forum are unaware of this inconvenient truth.
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(I trust that you do not mind my suggested slight edit for emphasis to your excellent comment .)

[_subgenius]

Plus, ironically, subgenius seems unaware of the point that few things are more strongly correlated with or symptomatic of mental disorders than strong religiosity.

CFR, please.


“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts — was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” - Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD

"We started to notice that many of our experimental volunteers — those who were defiantly atheistic in their beliefs — were also suffering from various forms of dissociate disorders and social adaptation manias. This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient because for years we have been led to believe that religious zeal was often a patently obvious sign of mental illness, but in fact this is not the case. Quite the contrary."
November 2013. Nezavisimiy Psikhiatricheskiy Zhurnal (The Independent Psychiatric Journal)

[_Amore]

DrW,
While I see some truth in that a substantial cases of mental illness are rooted in religious cognitive distortions, it seems that many fail to realize such cognitive distortions are as prevelant if not more common in herd mentalities like Atheism and Liberalism. Check it out for yourself and you'll see.

[_canpakes]

DrW,
While I see some truth in that a substantial cases of mental illness are rooted in religious cognitive distortions, it seems that many fail to realize such cognitive distortions are as prevelant if not more common in herd mentalities like Atheism and Liberalism. Check it out for yourself and you'll see.

Amore, you seem very addicted to a 'herd mentality' when it suits you, by compartmentalizing any supposed group of people that you do not agree with under ill-defined labels.

If you're going to make the statement above, then you similarly state, by default of your subjective and loose classifications, that "cognitive distortions are as prevalent if not more common in herd mentalities like 'religious believers' and 'conservatives'".

[_canpakes]

Plus, ironically, subgenius seems unaware of the point that few things are more strongly correlated with or symptomatic of mental disorders than strong religiosity.

CFR, please.


“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts — was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” - Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD

"We started to notice that many of our experimental volunteers — those who were defiantly atheistic in their beliefs — were also suffering from various forms of dissociate disorders and social adaptation manias. This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient because for years we have been led to believe that religious zeal was often a patently obvious sign of mental illness, but in fact this is not the case. Quite the contrary."
November 2013. Nezavisimiy Psikhiatricheskiy Zhurnal (The Independent Psychiatric Journal)

I'll see your quote from the Independent Psychiatric Association of Russia and raise you two others, from the West:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.100 ... 013-9712-3

http://www.aleciashepherd.com/writings/ ... tudies.pdf

You can really go in either direction with this one.

By the way, it's not looking like your response meets the criteria of 'comprehensively' acknowledging and addressing AKA_ME's post. If anything, you've done the complete opposite. Maybe your toast was burning and you had to leave in a hurry, though.

[_Quasimodo]

“Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts — was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” - Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD

"We started to notice that many of our experimental volunteers — those who were defiantly atheistic in their beliefs — were also suffering from various forms of dissociate disorders and social adaptation manias. This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient because for years we have been led to believe that religious zeal was often a patently obvious sign of mental illness, but in fact this is not the case. Quite the contrary."
November 2013. Nezavisimiy Psikhiatricheskiy Zhurnal (The Independent Psychiatric Journal)

Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD doesn't exist. More BS.

[_canpakes]

Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD doesn't exist. More BS.

Quite right. Check out where subgenius' quote actually comes from:

http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/ath ... s-say-yes/

This is a blog written in 2012 (predating the timeline included by subgenius in his quote) with no source or reference.

[_subgenius]

The irony of how Gunnar and DrW make unsourced (and unsubstantiated) claims and you swallow it like a fat catfish lying at the bottom of a muddy creek called "your intellect"....all the while making the case that the opposite is actually true.


"In 2004, scholars at UCLA revealed that college students involved in religious activities are likely to have better mental health. In 2006, population researchers at the University of Texas discovered that the more often you go to church, the longer you live. In the same year researchers at Duke University in America discovered that religious people have stronger immune systems than the irreligious."
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seant ... tally-ill/

"We also know that there is strong comorbidity between atheism and high functioning autism."
http://csjarchive.cogsci.rpi.edu/procee ... er0782.pdf


"In a review of mental health research that referenced decades of social science studies, 81 percent of the 99 studies reviewed found "some positive association…between religious involvement and greater happiness, life satisfaction, morale, positive affect, or some other measure of well-being."
http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... -stability

and on and on and on