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LittleNipper wrote:I understand Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be but a little warning.
Nope, you're still lost in the woods. Because there's no need for a "little warning" if the sky god's there to prevent nuclear war.

The sky god cult has seriously friend your brain, Nipper.


LittleNipper wrote:Big can also mean ---- of considerable importance or seriousness: important · major · momentous · consequential · far-reaching · impactful · key · vital · critical · crucial
In which case the sky god is nowhere near as important as you say he is. Because otherwise you'd be in North Korea propagating his cult.


God is using Saved South Koreans to witness to North Korea. Without my God this universe could not exist. Proof of Him is life which no scientist can recreate. Additionally, man is certainly not stable enough to prevent a Nuclear holocaust if North Korea wanted it today.

Yeshayah 34:7 (OJB) | In Context | Whole Chapter

7 And the re’emim (wild oxen) shall fall with them, and the bull calves with the bulls;
and their land shall be soaked with dahm, and their aphar (dust) enriched with chelev.

Isaiah 34:7 (RSV) | In Context | Whole Chapter

Wild oxen shall fall with them,
and young steers with the mighty bulls.
Their land shall be soaked with blood,
and their soil made rich with fat.
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LittleNipper wrote:God is using Saved South Koreans to witness to North Korea.
Is this the same god who's trying to prevent nuclear war by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

And don't you think it's a bit lame to say you don't need to witness to the North Koreans because it's somebody else's job? That's what a lazy teenager would say.


LittleNipper wrote:Without my God this universe could not exist.
Don't look now, but the Hare Krishnas are using that same argument to "prove" the existence of Lord Krishna.


LittleNipper wrote:Proof of Him is life which no scientist can recreate.
See above.


LittleNipper wrote:Additionally, man is certainly not stable enough to prevent a Nuclear holocaust if North Korea want it.
Irrelevant.


LittleNipper wrote:7 And the re’emim (wild oxen) shall fall...blah...blah...blah...
Oh, so you've simply crossed out the word "unicorn" and are pretending it was never there to begin with. Got it.
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LittleNipper wrote:God is using Saved South Koreans to witness to North Korea.
Is this the same god who's trying to prevent nuclear war by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

And don't you think it's a bit lame to say you don't need to witness to the North Koreans because it's somebody else's job? That's something a lazy teenager would say.


LittleNipper wrote:Without my God this universe could not exist.
Don't look now, but the Hare Krishnas are using that same argument to "prove" the existence of Lord Krishna.


LittleNipper wrote:Proof of Him is life which no scientist can recreate.
See above.


LittleNipper wrote:Additionally, man is certainly not stable enough to prevent a Nuclear holocaust if North Korea want it.
Irrelevant.


LittleNipper wrote:7 And the re’emim (wild oxen) shall fall...blah...blah...blah...
Oh, so you've simply crossed out the word "unicorn" and are pretending it was never there to begin with. Got it.

Nothing is irrelevant where anyone can explode lethal doses of radiation anywhere and everywhere ------------------ whenever, for whatever reason under the sun. Do you really believe the government has the ability to stop some nut from wiping out any city? Now imagine a whole army of nuts. Who would have imagined homosexual marriage 40 years ago? Did rational thinking prevent it? Did education control it? Did the government stop it? God will allow select sin; however, He will not allow total annihilation until He unleases it after the Millennial Kingdom Age is over (it hasn't started yet). The Hare Krishnan are not foolish enough not to realize there is a GOD. They simply do not understand Salvation, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, or Omniscience. And again, one must not take Bible verses out of context and this is exactly what Atheists do as a mediocre defense of their position. When the KJV was edited, the translators used the word "unicorn" to translate a single Hebrew word, רְאֵם reym, because they didn't know what the original Hebrew word meant. Unicorn is an English word and not a Hebraic one. Clearly, the Orthodox Jewish Bible didn't not translate the word as "Unicorn."

PS> A unicorn is a single horned animal and is not of necessity a type of horse. God's Word is inerrant. Translations are but an attempt at it.
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LittleNipper wrote:Nothing is irrelevant where anyone can explode lethal doses of radiation anywhere and everywhere ------------------ whenever, for whatever reason under the sun.
You may not have realized this, but "anyone" also includes you. Or are you trying to tell me you're building a nuke in your basement? Do I need to report your IP address to Homeland Security?


LittleNipper wrote:Do you really believe the government has the ability to stop some nut from wiping out any city?
No, I don't. I believe the government can make it extremely difficult to detonate a nuke in an urban area, but not impossible.


LittleNipper wrote:Now imagine a whole army of nuts.
I don't have to--I'm talking to one right now.


LittleNipper wrote:Who would have imagined homosexual marriage 40 years ago?
Why do you ask? Are you afraid you're going to be nuked by same sex marriage supporters?


LittleNipper wrote:Did rational thinking prevent it?
I'm pretty sure "rational thinking" has more to do with why we haven't been nuked by same sex marriage supporters.


LittleNipper wrote:Did education control it?
It's not the job of public education to keep us from being nuked by people who support same sex marriage.


LittleNipper wrote:Did the government stop it?
I know of no branch of the federal government tasked with keeping us safe from nuclear strikes by same sex marriage supporters.


LittleNipper wrote:God will allow select sin; however, He will not allow total annihilation until He unleases it after the Millennial Kingdom Age is over (it hasn't started yet).
Well, that all depends on which particular sect of sky god cultists you happen to be talking to. Some sky god cultists believe the "Millennial Kingdom Age" has already started. The sky god was kind of vague and contradictory when he wrote that part of the Bible.


LittleNipper wrote:The Hare Krishnan are not foolish enough not to realize there is a GOD.
Wrong--the Hare Krishna are polytheists; they believe in thousands, perhaps even millions of gods.


LittleNipper wrote:They simply do not understand Salvation, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, or Omniscience.
The Hare Krishna say you and the other sky god cultists don't understand about polytheism, reincarnation, and karma.


LittleNipper wrote:And again, one must not take Bible verses out of context and this is exactly what Atheists do as a mediocre defense of their position.
No, that's not what atheists do. I highly doubt you've ever had a serious discussion with an atheist. You and all the other sky god cultists should probably try to learn more about atheists and atheism, or else you'll end up looking like idiots.


LittleNipper wrote:When the KJV was edited...
Why would the "inerrant" word of the sky god need to be edited? Are you sure you know what "inerrant" means? I don't think you do.


LittleNipper wrote:"...the translators used the word "unicorn" to translate a single Hebrew word, רְאֵם reym, because they didn't know what the original Hebrew word meant."
Reym, aurochs, and other bovines have TWO horns, not one. Furthermore, equines and rhinocerotidae are not related to bovines. So it looks like your sky god screwed the pooch while writing that part of the Bible.


LittleNipper wrote:Unicorn is an English word and not a Hebraic one. Clearly, the Orthodox Jewish Bible didn't not translate the word as "Unicorn."
See above.


LittleNipper wrote:PS> A unicorn is a single horned animal and is not of necessity a type of horse.
In other words, your sky god thinks a narwhal can be a unicorn. So again, your sky god totally screwed the pooch on the topic of unicorns. Just accept it and move on.


LittleNipper wrote:God's Word is inerrant.
See above.


LittleNipper wrote:Translations are but an attempt at it.
There's a term for this kind of thing: Garbage in, garbage out.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Nothing is irrelevant where anyone can explode lethal doses of radiation anywhere and everywhere ------------------ whenever, for whatever reason under the sun.
You may not have realized this, but "anyone" also includes you. Or are you trying to tell me you're building a nuke in your basement? Do I need to report your IP address to Homeland Security?


LittleNipper wrote:Do you really believe the government has the ability to stop some nut from wiping out any city?
No, I don't. I believe the government can make it extremely difficult to detonate a nuke in an urban area, but not impossible.


LittleNipper wrote:Now imagine a whole army of nuts.
I don't have to--I'm talking to one right now.


LittleNipper wrote:Who would have imagined homosexual marriage 40 years ago?
Why do you ask? Are you afraid you're going to be nuked by same sex marriage supporters?


LittleNipper wrote:Did rational thinking prevent it?
I'm pretty sure "rational thinking" has more to do with why we haven't been nuked by same sex marriage supporters.


LittleNipper wrote:Did education control it?
It's not the job of public education to keep us from being nuked by people who support same sex marriage.


LittleNipper wrote:Did the government stop it?
I know of no branch of the federal government tasked with keeping us safe from nuclear strikes by same sex marriage supporters.


LittleNipper wrote:God will allow select sin; however, He will not allow total annihilation until He unleases it after the Millennial Kingdom Age is over (it hasn't started yet).
Well, that all depends on which particular sect of sky god cultists you happen to be talking to. Some sky god cultists believe the "Millennial Kingdom Age" has already started. The sky god was kind of vague and contradictory when he wrote that part of the Bible.


LittleNipper wrote:The Hare Krishnan are not foolish enough not to realize there is a GOD.
Wrong--the Hare Krishna are polytheists; they believe in thousands, perhaps even millions of gods.


LittleNipper wrote:They simply do not understand Salvation, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, or Omniscience.
The Hare Krishna say you and the other sky god cultists don't understand about polytheism, reincarnation, and karma.


LittleNipper wrote:And again, one must not take Bible verses out of context and this is exactly what Atheists do as a mediocre defense of their position.
No, that's not what atheists do. I highly doubt you've ever had a serious discussion with an atheist. You and all the other sky god cultists should probably try to learn more about atheists and atheism, or else you'll end up looking like idiots.


LittleNipper wrote:When the KJV was edited...
Why would the "inerrant" word of the sky god need to be edited? Are you sure you know what "inerrant" means? I don't think you do.


LittleNipper wrote:"...the translators used the word "unicorn" to translate a single Hebrew word, רְאֵם reym, because they didn't know what the original Hebrew word meant."
Reym, aurochs, and other bovines have TWO horns, not one. Furthermore, equines and rhinocerotidae are not related to bovines. So it looks like your sky god screwed the pooch while writing that part of the Bible.


LittleNipper wrote:Unicorn is an English word and not a Hebraic one. Clearly, the Orthodox Jewish Bible didn't not translate the word as "Unicorn."
See above.


LittleNipper wrote:PS> A unicorn is a single horned animal and is not of necessity a type of horse.
In other words, your sky god thinks a narwhal can be a unicorn. So again, your sky god totally screwed the pooch on the topic of unicorns. Just accept it and move on.


LittleNipper wrote:God's Word is inerrant.
See above.


LittleNipper wrote:Translations are but an attempt at it.
There's a term for this kind of thing: Garbage in, garbage out.

:sad: :rolleyes:
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LittleNipper wrote: :sad: :rolleyes:


How else do you expect people to react when you say things that simply aren't true?
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Job 37: 1-24 Elihu continues speaking:

"At this my heart is pounding and feels like it is going to leap from my chest.

Listen carefully to the thunder and rumbling that proceeds from His mouth.

Under the whole heaven He lets His lightning occur everywhere across the earth.

After that He thunders with a loud roar, and He does not hold back His lightning bolts when his voice is heard.

God thunders with his voice fantastically. He does great things beyond our understanding.

He created the snow to fall, and torrential rains to pour.

He expects everyone to cease laboring, so that all people may learn of His work..

The wild animals return to their lairs, and in their dens they remain.

A cyclone begins to follow a course ---- icy cold is spread by the driving winds.

The breath of God created ice, and the expanse of the waters freeze solid.

He loads the clouds with moisture ---- He sends his lightning through the clouds.

The clouds move in circles, churning according to his plans, to carry out all that he commands them over the face of the whole inhabited world.

Whether for punishment, the sake of the land, or for mercy ----- He causes it to find its mark.

Pay attention, Job! Quietly consider the wonders God works.

Do you realize how God controls them, how he makes lightning flash His cloud?

Do you know about the balancing of the clouds, the wonder of perfect knowledge?

You, whose garments get hot when the earth is still because of the south wind, will you, with Him, spread out the clouds, solid as reflective metal?

Tell us what we should tell Him. We cannot prepare a case because of the darkness.

Should He be informed that I wish to speak? If a man speaks, surely he would be vaporized!

But now, the sun cannot stared at— brilliant in the skies— after a passing breeze sweeps the clouds away.

From the north it comes in golden splendor; around God is awesome majesty.

We can never attain the level of the Almighty. He is great in power, but justice and abundant righteousness He does not oppress.

People fear Him, because He does not consider all deep thinkers.”

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 Also, at this my heart trembleth, And it moveth from its place.

2 Hearken diligently to the trembling of His voice, Yea, the sound from His mouth goeth forth.

3 Under the whole heavens He directeth it, And its light [is] over the skirts of the earth.

4 After it roar doth a voice -- He thundereth with the voice of His excellency, And He doth not hold them back, When His voice is heard.

5 God thundereth with His voice wonderfully, Doing great things and we know not.

6 For to snow He saith, `Be [on] the earth.' And the small rain and great rain of His power.

7 Into the hand of every man he sealeth, For the knowledge by all men of His work.

8 And enter doth the beast into covert, And in its habitations it doth continue.

9 From the inner chamber cometh a hurricane, And from scatterings winds -- cold,

10 From the breath of God is frost given, And the breadth of waters is straitened,

11 Yea, by filling He doth press out a cloud, Scatter a cloud doth His light.

12 And it is turning itself round by His counsels, For their doing all He commandeth them, On the face of the habitable earth.

13 Whether for a rod, or for His land, Or for kindness -- He doth cause it to come.

14 Hear this, O Job, Stand and consider the wonders of God.

15 Dost thou know when God doth place them, And caused to shine the light of His cloud?

16 Dost thou know the balancings of a cloud? The wonders of the Perfect in knowledge?

17 How thy garments [are] warm, In the quieting of the earth from the south?

18 Thou hast made an expanse with Him For the clouds -- strong as a hard mirror!

19 Let us know what we say to Him, We set not in array because of darkness.

20 Is it declared to Him that I speak? If a man hath spoken, surely he is swallowed up.

21 And now, they have not seen the light, Bright it [is] in the clouds, And the wind hath passed by and cleanseth them.

22 From the golden north it cometh, Beside God [is] fearful honour.

23 The Mighty! we have not found Him out, High in power and judgment, He doth not answer! And abundant in righteousness,

24 Therefore do men fear Him, He seeth not any of the wise of heart.
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First off, God did ask Abraham to take his son to be sacrificed. Abraham believed that God would provide a miracle. What God was doing was demonstrating faith.
No, Isaac was not a little child. There is every indication that Abraham's son was a mature man. As such he could have easily escaped his dad's "crazy idea." There is every indication that there was just as much faith being demonstrated by Isaac as by Abraham.

The fact is that Isaac represents a type of Christ and that was God's ultimate intent ----- along with a clear illustration of substitutionary sacrifice. God did not allow Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac.
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LittleNipper wrote:First off, God did ask Abraham to take his son to be sacrificed.
Yeah, the sky god is a real bastard, isn't he?


LittleNipper wrote:Abraham believed that God would provide a miracle.
This changes nothing, because Abraham was still perfectly willing to kill his son to appease the sky god.


LittleNipper wrote:What God was doing was demonstrating faith.
Wrong--he was forcing Abraham to subject his son to a mock execution.


LittleNipper wrote:No, Isaac was not a little child. There is every indication that Abraham's son was a mature man. As such he could have easily escaped his dad's "crazy idea." There is every indication that there was just as much faith being demonstrated by Isaac as by Abraham.
Wrong--this merely shows that Isaac was as sick and twisted as his abusive father.


LittleNipper wrote:The fact is that Isaac represents a type of Christ and that was God's ultimate intent ----- along with a clear illustration of substitutionary sacrifice.
A mock execution is still a mock execution. Calling it a "substitutionary sacrifice" is like trying to varnish a turd.


LittleNipper wrote:God did not allow Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac.
See above
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