Missionary in Costa Rica dies in his sleep.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Runtu,

Markk was onto something with Servant. Just let her do her thing. I'm not sure how you're not picking up on her writing style, but you know...

- Doc


Yeah.

The whole "cult" deal and then defending speaking in tongues.....just weird.
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cwald wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Runtu,

Markk was onto something with Servant. Just let her do her thing. I'm not sure how you're not picking up on her writing style, but you know...

- Doc


Yeah.


It's the aspergers in me. I don't read people very well.
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Runtu wrote:
Servant wrote:Sorry, it's hard to tell who is and isn't a Mormon on this board. Are there any Mormons? I wasn't actually responding to you anyway, but to the guy above you.


You quoted me. But regardless, it was a cheap shot and would have been even if I was Mormon.


The question I was replying to was do people in cults go to hell, or something like that. That was a cheap shot aimed at me, I think ("why should you care about this young man, after all he was in a cult"). It was made by that "erotic" guy I think.

You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. We don't live in a vacuum and God has given us His Word - although I think most on this board may not agree wit that. When you left Mormonism did you just leave spirituality totally, or do you have any beliefs in that regard? I notice many here seem to be atheists, but you don't.
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Servant wrote:The question I was replying to was do people in cults go to hell, or something like that. That was a cheap shot aimed at me, I think. You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. When you left Mormonism did you just leave spirituality totally, or do you have any beliefs in that regard? I notice many here seem to be atheists, but you don't.


A number of Evangelicals have told me that Mormons will go to hell, so I'm sorry for assuming you share that belief.

As for my spiritual beliefs, I'm working that out, and I have no interest in a public discussion of where I am in that process.
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Runtu wrote:
Servant wrote:The question I was replying to was do people in cults go to hell, or something like that. That was a cheap shot aimed at me, I think. You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. When you left Mormonism did you just leave spirituality totally, or do you have any beliefs in that regard? I notice many here seem to be atheists, but you don't.


A number of Evangelicals have told me that Mormons will go to hell, so I'm sorry for assuming you share that belief.

As for my spiritual beliefs, I'm working that out, and I have no interest in a public discussion of where I am in that process.

I reworded my post above:

The question I was replying to was do people in cults go to hell, or something like that. That was a cheap shot aimed at me, I think ("why should you care about this young man, after all he was in a cult"). It was made by that "erotic" guy I think (I have him on ignore).

You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. We don't live in a vacuum and God has given us His Word - although I think most on this board may not agree wit that. When you left Mormonism did you just leave spirituality totally, or do you have any beliefs in that regard? I notice many here seem to be atheists, but you don't.

Note: okay, so now I see you don't want to discuss your beliefs, but don't seem to be an atheist as some others appear to be.
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As for the issue, "do Mormons go to Hell?" Well, if they deny the Biblical God's revelation of Himself, and the Incarnation of the Word (made flesh), Jesus Christ, then they choose to deny the salvation God has offered them. Men choose hell. You can see for yourself on this forum that there's a great deal of bitterness toward God, mockery, and so forth. It's sad that this is what Mormonism does to people - they learn they were lied to (and they surely were), and then end up despising Christianity as well.
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Servant wrote:As for the issue, "do Mormons go to Hell?" Well, if they deny the Biblical God's revelation of Himself, and the Incarnation of the Word (made flesh), Jesus Christ, then they choose to deny the salvation God has offered them.


Hmmm. I don't know any Mormons who deny that, so maybe they won't go to hell. Who knows?

Thank you for respecting my privacy, but I have a bad history of doing too much public soul-searching, with predictably bad results.
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Servant wrote: You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. We don't live in a vacuum and God has given us His Word -


Where on earth has God give us "His Word" that you have to believe in the Trinity to go to heaven?
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consiglieri wrote:
Servant wrote: You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. We don't live in a vacuum and God has given us His Word -


Where on earth has God give us "His Word" that you have to believe in the Trinity to go to heaven?

It in the Bible: https://www.gci.org/God/3Bible

The Bible clearly teaches (Isa. 43:10) that there is one God, not a whole bunch of gods who were formerly beings on another planet (as Joseph Smith taught).

It teaches that the Father is God; the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God.

God is, therefore, a tripersonal center of Being. People make this so hard - God didn't.

And polytheism is so clearly condemned in the Bible that one has to be blinded not to see it.
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Servant wrote:The question I was replying to was do people in cults go to hell, or something like that. That was a cheap shot aimed at me, I think ("why should you care about this young man, after all he was in a cult"). It was made by that "erotic" guy I think.
If you're going to quote me, please do so accurately. Or do you disagree that purposely misquoting someone is inherently dishonest?

Do you, like littlenipper, believe Christians must sometimes tell lies in order to spread their gospel?



Servant wrote:You know, doctrine does matter. Beliefs do matter. We don't live in a vacuum and God has given us His Word - although I think most on this board may not agree wit that. When you left Mormonism did you just leave spirituality totally, or do you have any beliefs in that regard? I notice many here seem to be atheists, but you don't.
Here's your problem. In the same way that you miss the distinction between a "sect" and a "cult," you likewise miss the distinction between holy writ and your personal interpretation of holy writ.
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