Another "Prophet" caught fibbing...

[_Maksutov]

Well, they DID appologize for MMM.....

On September 11, 2007, at the memorial ceremony for the sesquicentennial anniversary of the massacre, Henry B. Eyring, an Apostle who would join the First Presidency of the LDS Church the following month, read an official statement, saying:

"We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago today, and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time. A separate expression of regret is owed the Paiute people who have unjustly borne for too long the principal blame for what occurred during the massacre. Although the extent of their involvement is disputed, it is believed they would not have participated without the direction and stimulus provided by local church leaders and members."

This was a mea culpa plea, not a genuine apology. It was something drafted by lawyers in the hopes that it would deflect legal liability.

by the way, this statement shouts the need for an apology to the Paiute Tribe for the insinuation that the Paiutes went ahead and participated in the massacre. The culprits who shot bullets straight into the head of the enslaved men, women and children of the wagon train were Mormons. Sometimes it behooves us to be forthright and honest. This is one of those times.

Every cry and whine about persecution and mistreatment of Mormons has to be measured against this massacre AND its coverup and defense/dismissal/deflection even a century and a half later. Mormons were murderous religious terrorists just like ISIS, the PLO and others that could be named. All the white shirts and sappy Osmonds and canned PR and droning priesthood voice lullabies in Conference won't change that and the stain on the First Presidency by accomplice prophets who helped the cover up and spread the lies. These are NOT "little flecks of the past" to be finessed away by a serial lying Gordon B. Hinckley. These were real people who have descendants who will not forget this outrage, nor should they.

[_Maksutov]

Well, they DID appologize for MMM..... so get with the program.... shows how much you actually know.
They didn't lie about William Law, he lied.
The City Council including some non-mormons on it destroyed the Press.
Well, technically they were simply supposed to stop it, not destroy it.
Further, I seem to recall they did end up paying for it, but can't remember, they certainly paid for it in other ways, don't you think?
And tell me why the Church needs to appologize for something 150 years ago? Get over it already. You're like FAnatical Islam.
Don't have time to get into all the rest of your rambling.....

But most of the rest of your complaints is just you complaining that poor you has to actually be told how to be a good and quality person according to the Church standards. Get over it. If you don't want to be Mormon, then don't. The rest of us like it as it is. Not always perfect, but it's as good as the world can produce with human beings still in it. Sorry you don't like it.

Get over it? Okay, get the Church to stop crying about all of its persecutions--many of which they provoked--in its literature, missionary discussions, nonstop movies on Temple Square, etc. Way past time for Mormons to "get over it". Get over your prophet getting killed while you're at it. Ready now?

Talk about fanatics. You're the one cowering in an apartment shooting out unsourced and indefensible BS, getting caught over and over again in errors and lies and compounding the lies with more lies about your lies, while calling everyone else liars. For a while I felt sympathetic to you, but now I just hope you don't have access to firearms.

[_Tobin]

Get over it? Okay, get the Church to stop crying about all of its persecutions--many of which they provoked--in its literature, missionary discussions, nonstop movies on Temple Square, etc. Way past time for Mormons to "get over it". Get over your prophet getting killed while you're at it. Ready now?

Talk about fanatics. You're the one cowering in an apartment shooting out unsourced and indefensible b***s***, getting caught over and over again in errors and lies and compounding the lies with more lies about your lies, while calling everyone else liars. For a while I felt sympathetic to you, but now I just hope you don't have access to firearms.

But grindael is a lying bigot. There is nothing to get over. That is just a fact.

[_Maksutov]

Get over it? Okay, get the Church to stop crying about all of its persecutions--many of which they provoked--in its literature, missionary discussions, nonstop movies on Temple Square, etc. Way past time for Mormons to "get over it". Get over your prophet getting killed while you're at it. Ready now?

Talk about fanatics. You're the one cowering in an apartment shooting out unsourced and indefensible b***s***, getting caught over and over again in errors and lies and compounding the lies with more lies about your lies, while calling everyone else liars. For a while I felt sympathetic to you, but now I just hope you don't have access to firearms.

But grindael is a lying bigot. There is nothing to get over. That is just a fact.

What's Grindael got to do with it? I'm talking to ldsfaqs.

[_grindael]

by the way, still waiting for the alternative possible explainations other than "lying" if you were an objective and fair scholar.
But you won't.

Because there are none.

[_grindael]

Get over it? Okay, get the Church to stop crying about all of its persecutions--many of which they provoked--in its literature, missionary discussions, nonstop movies on Temple Square, etc. Way past time for Mormons to "get over it". Get over your prophet getting killed while you're at it. Ready now?

Talk about fanatics. You're the one cowering in an apartment shooting out unsourced and indefensible b***s***, getting caught over and over again in errors and lies and compounding the lies with more lies about your lies, while calling everyone else liars. For a while I felt sympathetic to you, but now I just hope you don't have access to firearms.

But grindael is a lying bigot. There is nothing to get over. That is just a fact.

This is typical TROLLBIN, making irrelevant comments that don't make any sense. And for not giving someone like me "much thought" he sure had to go out of his way to jump in and call me names on a comment that wasn't even about me. Just another example of TROLLBIN's obvious fractured mental state. We all know he doesn't play well with others. They even caught him on video with some of his own kind, and he turns on one of them too...



The only ugly, pathetic, lying bigot here is you, TROLLBIN. This video he stars in shows this perfectly... https://mormonitemusings.files.wordpres ... -world.mp4

[_kairos]

This whole thread reminds me of the quote from a John Wayne movie, "It's just like taking candy away from a baby."

Take that... Pilgrim



Or dunkin' em...

Hey that's no way to baptize an 8 year old even if he does not know the articles of faith -btw did he go all the way under

[_cwald]

Get over it? Okay, get the Church to stop crying about all of its persecutions--many of which they provoked--in its literature, missionary discussions, nonstop movies on Temple Square, etc. Way past time for Mormons to "get over it". Get over your prophet getting killed while you're at it. Ready now?

Talk about fanatics. You're the one cowering in an apartment shooting out unsourced and indefensible b***s***, getting caught over and over again in errors and lies and compounding the lies with more lies about your lies, while calling everyone else liars. For a while I felt sympathetic to you, but now I just hope you don't have access to firearms.

But grindael is a lying bigot. There is nothing to get over. That is just a fact.

WTF? Nice attempt to derail the conversation. What a troll.

LDSFaqs...somedays I really feel sorry for you. This is not one of them. You're kind of being a dumbass and more ignorant lately than usual.

[_Tobin]

But grindael is a lying bigot. There is nothing to get over. That is just a fact.

WTF? Nice attempt to derail the conversation. What a troll.

Actually, faqs brought it up. I'm just restating the facts of the situation. The problem with you cwald is you are too lazy or too stupid to read the thread.

[_cwald]

Yeah. That must be it.