Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

[consiglieri]

Deflection

[Dr Exiled]

Maybe Rosebud wants to be America's Forever Victim or perhaps Ms. Ex-Mormon Victim of the 2000's? Maybe Jbrosebud wants to forever discuss each and every facet of this "compelling" story until everyone is crazy?

Yes, John broke it off with Rosebud, wouldn't leave his wife, had a superior power position when he did, and perhaps forced her out, which to me is understandable given Rosebud. John admitted that there was an agreement to "go away" if things got too heavy and if it affected Open Stories Foundation and that to me makes the case for some severance/monetary damages for our victim hero. However, that's it. At a certain point,victims need to move on, even America's Forever Victim or Ms. Ex-Mormon Victim of the 2000's. Whatever John Dehlin did, unless more is shown, doesn't warrant the current Rosebud/JPatterson victimhood show.

[jpatterson]

Deflection

Hey, since you're advocating on behalf of John here, why don't you ask him if he has the rest of the texts that were sent between him and Rosebud that he selectively edited?

I'm sure everyone here who is clamoring for evidence would love to know the full context of what Rosebud and John said to each other. And since John is a "truth teller" I'm sure he'd be more than willing to, you know, tell the truth about the texts that he transcribed.

[consiglieri]

Deflection

Hey, since you're advocating on behalf of John here, why don't you ask him if he has the rest of the texts that were sent between him and Rosebud that he selectively edited?

I'm sure everyone here who is clamoring for evidence would love to know the full context of what Rosebud and John said to each other. And since John is a "truth teller" I'm sure he'd be more than willing to, you know, tell the truth about the texts that he transcribed.

Deflection.

Again.

It’s clear Rosebud doesn’t want this to end.

It is also clear you are enabling her in this wish.

Which doesn’t make you a very good friend.

Just a user.

[master_dc]

Deflection

Hey, since you're advocating on behalf of John here, why don't you ask him if he has the rest of the texts that were sent between him and Rosebud that he selectively edited?

I'm sure everyone here who is clamoring for evidence would love to know the full context of what Rosebud and John said to each other. And since John is a "truth teller" I'm sure he'd be more than willing to, you know, tell the truth about the texts that he transcribed.

What do you mean by "selectively edited"? Don't you have them? I think we are all exhausted from innuendo. Are you saying he changed the words in the text exchange that he submitted to the complaint in NH?

[master_dc]

What does this have to do with JD?

https://www.mormonrosebud.com/money/
When John doxxed me in 2014 and getting employment was difficult, I purchased a franchise so I could use their brand name to make money (acknowledging, of course, that there are always multiple factors that lead to any one decision). I witnessed the franchise’s involvement in a major crime and refused to be involved. I never wanted to be in another dangerous employment situation — one in which I knew something was very wrong but was in too much personal danger to report. I understood that if I continued with the franchise, I would be complicit to their crime and that they would expect me to help them defraud other franchisees the way they defrauded me. I refused to keep my contract and open a franchise location. The franchise sued me for breaking my contract and refusing to give them an $88,000 franchise fee. They did this even though I had only actively been with them for a little over a month. They won using contract law.

I am bankrupt. I owe the franchise somewhere between $363,000 and half a million.

There is the unfortunate stigma with "whistleblowers" and reasons why future employees might hesitate in hiring them. But in this case it might be justified.

[Dr Exiled]

Deflection

Hey, since you're advocating on behalf of John here, why don't you ask him if he has the rest of the texts that were sent between him and Rosebud that he selectively edited?

I'm sure everyone here who is clamoring for evidence would love to know the full context of what Rosebud and John said to each other. And since John is a "truth teller" I'm sure he'd be more than willing to, you know, tell the truth about the texts that he transcribed.

This is getting silly. Just have Rosebud, America's Forever Victim, release the texts. Of course that would probably end her power of victimhood in this as everyone will then know the extent of the small case and how she really needs to move on and stop bothering everyone with the "I have a secret" nonsense.

[The Stig]

To what end? What do you expect to come of that, at this point? Do you think John will be fired (again)? Do you think Rosebud will be reinstated? Seriously, it's clearly just a vendetta-seeking activity and there is no way you will get the current board of Open Stories Foundation to oblige when there is no outcome which will result in a remedy to a 10 year old complaint that is incredibly muddy.

Clearly.

Then answer the damn question - What is the end game?

[jpatterson]

What do you mean by "selectively edited"? Don't you have them? I think we are all exhausted from innuendo. Are you saying he changed the words in the text exchange that he submitted to the complaint in NH?

Why would you assume I have the text messages?

Changing words is not the same as selectively editing. Let me explain for like the 5th time.

John admits in an Aug 10 email that he and Rosebud were mutually "faux sexting" on Aug 9.

Yet, the Aug 9 texts that John released via consig show only Rosebud doing so. It's also fairly obvious there's a lot of context that is missing based on where JD chose to snippet the messages.

I'm speculating that he selectively edited out any damaging text messages from Rosebud to him (or vice versa) and sent that along as his response to the NH charges, and sent them along to consig to bolster his accusation that Rosebud was the one sexually harassing him.

Would be easy to clear up if JD or consig released the full, unedited text messages. But, as others have said, there's probably no "upside" for JD to do so because it's been clearly demonstrated that every time he opens his mouth, he exposes himself.

[jpatterson]

Then answer the damn question - What is the end game?

To bother you. It's clearly working.