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Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:44 am

What happened? Did Rosebud retroactively remove her consent from Kate Kelly? Or did Kelly revictimize her without consent? You are now denying that Kate Kelly had Rosebud’s consent?
So you don't have evidence that Rosebud conspired with Kate Kelly and Kwaku. Got it.
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Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

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Tue May 18, 2021 1:37 am
I thought you were a guy who is all about the evidence? What evidence do you have that I was copying and pasting exactly what Rosebud wanted me to communicate to this board?

This is your own conjecture, part of your fantasy world in which there is some grand conspiracy that I am somehow the lynchpin of. It would be sad if it wasn't so hilarious to me.
It’s OK, JP. We get that you would like to lay the blame on others when you represent yourself and your information in a misleading way. Numerous people have observed your inaccuracies and deceptions over the course of the thread. Your dollar store rhetoric is noted.

Deflection.
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Tue May 18, 2021 1:47 am
It’s OK, JP. We get that you would like to lay the blame on others when you represent yourself and your information in a misleading way. Numerous people have observed your inaccuracies and deceptions over the course of the thread. Your dollar store rhetoric is noted.
I get that you hold other people to a higher standard than you hold yourself. That much is clear.

Do you or do you not have evidence to back up your assertion that Rosebud conspired with Kate Kelly and Kwaku? It's a simple question.
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jpatterson wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:46 am
So you don't have evidence that Rosebud conspired with Kate Kelly and Kwaku. Got it.
So you deny that Kate Kelly had consent to drag out Rosebud’s “suffering” into public discussion again. Interesting!
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:49 am
jpatterson wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:46 am
So you don't have evidence that Rosebud conspired with Kate Kelly and Kwaku. Got it.
So you deny that Kate Kelly had consent to drag out Rosebud’s “suffering” into public discussion again. Interesting!
I have no idea if she did or didn't. I haven't made a claim about that.

As opposed to you, who have repeatedly made the claim that Rosebud was conspiring with Kate Kelly and Kwaku to drag this story out of the doldrums.

An accusation for which you, the guy who is all about having evidence, have no evidence.
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jpatterson wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:49 am
I get that you hold other people to a higher standard than you hold yourself. That much is clear.

Do you or do you not have evidence to back up your assertion that Rosebud conspired with Kate Kelly and Kwaku? It's a simple question.
On this board we track the credibility of posters. Your batting average is very low.

We also expect people who come here with accusations to bring reliable evidence to support their claims. Rosebud failed miserably. You are doing poorly. We are not on trial here. Your credibility and Rosebud’s credibility are. So far the evidence we have looks very bad for you and your weak sauce shuckin’ and jivin’.

Your laughable attempts to put words in my mouth are almost adorable. I guess Kate Kelly did not have Rosebud’s consent to publicize her accusations on Kwaku’s show! Fascinating!
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jpatterson wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:52 am
I have no idea if she did or didn't. I haven't made a claim about that.

As opposed to you, who have repeatedly made the claim that Rosebud was conspiring with Kate Kelly and Kwaku to drag this story out of the doldrums.

An accusation for which you, the guy who is all about having evidence, have no evidence.
JP, seriously. Yours is the credibility deficit here. You have come to our house with information that makes you and Rosebud look bad. Now you want to play cheap rhetorical games with us after telling us that Rosebud was in control of her information and doling out bits in what appeared to be directives you received from her. I mean, what did you learn from all of that redacting anyway? If you are so poorly informed, can’t answer basic questions, and don’t even remember that Kate Kelly advertised Rosebud’s accusations on the Kwaku show, why are you wasting everyone’s time?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:58 am
JP, seriously. Yours is the credibility deficit here. You have come to our house with information that makes you and Rosebud look bad. Now you want to play cheap rhetorical games with us after telling us that Rosebud was in control of her information and doling out bits in what appeared to be directives you received from her. I mean, what did you learn from all of that redacting anyway? If you are so poorly informed, can’t answer basic questions, and don’t even remember that Kate Kelly advertised Rosebud’s accusations on the Kwaku show, why are you wasting everyone’s time?
Hey man, I'm just trying to keep track of what the rules are here. Is this a board where baseless accusations are thrown around with no evidence or is it not? You have been the one banging that drum endlessly. It's just very curious what happens when you are held to your own standard.
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JP is wasting our time. For all we know he is some creep who is white-knighting here without Rosebud’s consent, while pretending to be the ideal boyfriend who “really listens,” “really gets it,” “and would be the perfect guy for Rosebud if only she took notice” of his heroism on her behalf. Thanks for the trip to Weirdoville, JP, who comes here to champion Rosebud’s cause without discussing this situation with Rosebud herself.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 2:05 am
JP is wasting our time. For all we know he is some creep who is white-knighting here without Rosebud’s consent, while pretending to be the ideal boyfriend who “really listens,” “really gets it,” “and would be the perfect guy for Rosebud if only she took notice” of his heroism on her behalf. Thanks for the trip to Weirdoville, JP, who comes here to champion Rosebud’s cause without discussing this situation with Rosebud herself.
"And when you have run out of bad arguments you turn to ad hominem. You would make a fine Mopologist."

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