LittleNipper wrote:I don't think my Fundamentalist understanding is infallible. Do Mormons believe their religious leaders infallible? How many visits are there to this thread and how many have visited the others? Perhaps you have an anterior motive to wanting me to cease and desist? I firmly believe that GOD wants individuals to seek God's absolute truth.
But you apparently do think that your assessment of the reality of YEC and Biblical inerrancy is infallible, which you have abjectly failed to demonstrate. In fact, you have only succeeded in repeatedly, though inadvertently underscoring just how faulty and unreasonable it is, whether you realize that or not.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
LittleNipper wrote:I don't think my Fundamentalist understanding is infallible. Do Mormons believe their religious leaders infallible? How many visits are there to this thread and how many have visited the others? Perhaps you have an ulterior motive to wanting me to cease and desist? I firmly believe that GOD wants individuals to seek God's absolute truth.
But you apparently do think that your assessment of the reality of YEC and Biblical inerrancy is infallible, which you have abjectly failed to demonstrate. In fact, you have only succeeded in repeatedly, though inadvertently underscoring just how faulty and unreasonable it is, whether you realize that or not.
The Fact is that YOU do not believe in an ALMIGHTY, ALL POWERFUL, GOD. You believe in a man of flesh and bone who was good enough to become just another among many gods. This is not what the Bible illustrates. You believe that Creationists are totally wrong but evolutionists and uniformitarians are right on the mark!!!
However, There was a World Wide Flood and a man named NOAH. Jesus the Messiah affirmed it. Matthew 24:37 New International Version As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
And it would seem that you and the evolutionists are missing the boat.
Gunnar wrote:But you apparently do think that your assessment of the reality of YEC and Biblical inerrancy is infallible, which you have abjectly failed to demonstrate. In fact, you have only succeeded in repeatedly, though inadvertently underscoring just how faulty and unreasonable it is, whether you realize that or not.
The Fact is that YOU do not believe in an ALMIGHTY, ALL POWERFUL, GOD. You believe in a man of flesh and bone who was good enough to become just another among many gods. This is not what the Bible illustrates. You believe that Creationists are totally wrong but evolutionists and uniformitarians are right on the mark!!!
However, There was a World Wide Flood and a man named NOAH. Jesus the Messiah affirmed it. Matthew 24:37 New International Version As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
And it would seem that you and the evolutionists are missing the boat.
So, Nipper, you think that shouting at us will convince us? About as much as that street preacher on the corner with his spittly sermons at sinners passing by. I can't help it if your God doesn't exist. Don't yell at me about it, he's your problem. There are many Christians who disagree with how you interpret your book. You have an argument with them as well. Please try not to burn any at the stake, no matter what your book says.
LittleNipper wrote:And it would seem that you and the evolutionists are missing the boat.
Well actually to ascribe all of the genetic diversity that exists today to the few animals that were supposedly saved from the flood on your tiny boat would make you the evolutionist, and the evolutionists would be unchanging and immutable in comparison with you who has to believe in a rate of evolution so great that scientists recognize that it would be lethal.
About 40% of all described insect species are beetles (about 400,000 species)
Oh sure a new species is created every three and a half days on average since the flood.
But most creationists say the speciation took place in the 1st 200 years after the flood! So I stand corrected! A new species every 4 hours and 23 minutes!!!
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
How well does this "model" of animal kinds on board the ark diversifying during the first 200 years after the flood stack up? The opossum shows little change over millions of years. The Cretaceous opossum of 70 million years ago–which most young-earth creationists would classify as pre-Flood because the fossils are found in strata they classify as Flood deposits–is very much like the opossum of today. Such continuous series of similar fossils tells us no divergence has occurred. This indicates the opossum and other species experienced fairly uniform conditions before and after the Flood. http://www.reasons.org/articles/rapid-p ... arth-model
Facts disproving fantasy.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
Maksutov wrote:So, Nipper, you think that shouting at us will convince us? About as much as that street preacher on the corner with his spittly sermons at sinners passing by. I can't help it if your God doesn't exist. Don't yell at me about it, he's your problem. There are many Christians who disagree with how you interpret your book. You have an argument with them as well. Please try not to burn any at the stake, no matter what your book says.
What LittleNipper is oblivious to and seemingly incapable of understanding is that whether or not there is any such thing as God, much of what is in the Holy Bible is demonstrably false. Though he seems incapable of acknowledging the evidence or understanding the full implications of the evidence already provided him, if he would only take an honest look at it, Noah's flood, the Tower of Babel, Young Earth, etc. are, if anything, even more devastatingly refuted by the available evidence than the Flat Earth Theory and the Geocentric Universe Theory. That he simply can't or won't see that reflects very poorly on him. The irrationality of his arguments and those of other Christian Fundamentalists who think like he does also tends to unfairly inspire much undue ridicule on Christianity in general, because few Christians nowadays are as stubbornly dogmatic and irrational as he is.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Maksutov wrote:So, Nipper, you think that shouting at us will convince us? About as much as that street preacher on the corner with his spittly sermons at sinners passing by. I can't help it if your God doesn't exist. Don't yell at me about it, he's your problem. There are many Christians who disagree with how you interpret your book. You have an argument with them as well. Please try not to burn any at the stake, no matter what your book says.
What LittleNipper is oblivious to and seemingly incapable of understanding is that whether or not there is any such thing as God, much of what is in the Holy Bible is demonstrably false. Though he seems incapable of acknowledging the evidence or understanding the full implications of the evidence already provided him, if he would only take an honest look at it, Noah's flood, the Tower of Babel, Young Earth, etc. is, if anything, even more devastatingly refuted by the available evidenc than the Flat Earth Theory and the Geocentric Universe Theory. That he simply can't or won't see that reflects very poorly on him. The irrationality of his arguments and those of other Christian Fundamentalists who think like he does also tends to unfairly inspire much undue ridicule on Christianity in general, because few Christians nowadays are as stubbornly dogmatic and irrational as he is.
I find it fascinating how fundies can dismiss the genocide involved in the Flood and become horrified and enraged at the use of IUDs and "morning after" pills. Oh, I forgot, God can do any horrible thing and it's all good, because he's God. Very healthy worldview and model for behavior. Great foundation for dictatorships.
Maksutov wrote:I find it fascinating how fundies can dismiss the genocide involved in the Flood and become horrified and enraged at the use of IUDs and "morning after" pills. Oh, I forgot, God can do any horrible thing and it's all good, because he's God. Very healthy worldview and model for behavior. Great foundation for dictatorships.
As I have mentioned before, the scariest thing about that is how small is the leap from believing God did or authorized such terrible things and believing that one has been called by God to do similar or just as terrible things in His name.
ETA: There are already Christian Reconstructionists in the US who advocate changing to a theocracy that would impose the harsh laws of the Mosaic code described in Leviticus, if they could manage to get into power. Apparently, Ted Cruz's father is one of those, and I suspect that Ted himself is sympathetic to that ideal.
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No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Maksutov wrote:I find it fascinating how fundies can dismiss the genocide involved in the Flood and become horrified and enraged at the use of IUDs and "morning after" pills. Oh, I forgot, God can do any horrible thing and it's all good, because he's God. Very healthy worldview and model for behavior. Great foundation for dictatorships.
As I have mentioned before, the scariest thing about that is how small is the leap from believing God did or authorized such terrible things and believing that one has been called by God to do similar or just as terrible things in His name.
Very true. And the same thing can happen with the state in times of fanatical nationalism. It's always a possibility that we have to monitor.
Very true. And the same thing can happen with the state in times of fanatical nationalism. It's always a possibility that we have to monitor.
Yup!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
There are many Christians who disagree with how you interpret your book. You have an argument with them as well. Please try not to burn any at the stake, no matter what your book says. 
