Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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Maksutov wrote:
Why should we spoon feed you? Are you an adult? If you weren't such a lazy, dishonest person, you'd go do some reading yourself.


Awesome sauce. A couple or three months ago there was a thread where I brought up Grant Hardy's book.

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Boo ... 0199731705

At that time I was bringing up 'stuff' and others that didn't want to take the time to read the book wanted me to 'spoon feed' or prove/show 'stuff' from the book to support what I was talking about, etc. They didn't want to take the time to actually read the book. Were you one of those guys? Can't remember...

And all I asked on this thread from Fionn was the name of ONE book.

Rich.

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Lemmie wrote:It was very interesting to read your comment, I have had such similar thoughts.


The dynamic duo. :wink:

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Maksutov wrote:Yes, you always run, don't you? Keep running.


Beautiful run. Saturday I hiked up to the Y on Y mountain and used some muscles that I don't seem to use much while running. I've been sore since Saturday, but the run today was actually pretty dang good. The endorphins kick after a bit and all is well. Thanks for your question. It was one of the more substantive ones I've seen from you lately with all the 'butt kicking' you've been attempting. :lol: Pretty obvious what you and your 'tag team' are trying to do.

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Fionn wrote:I recommend this one: (wrong link deleted)

Oops! Wrong link. My bad.

Fixed: [ur][A History of the Urantia Papers https://www.amazon.com/dp/1439272751/re ... jxb4XDDDD8[/url]


As I read through a number of the comments/reviews starting from the newest first and looking through a few pages I'm not sure that I'd go with your recommendation and spend the money.

I won't cut and paste them here because some of them are kind of long...but you and others can go over to amazon and read them if you want.

Any other book you would recommend that would be more factual/trustworthy?

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Lemmie wrote:No worries.... Whatever you are posting, it will be worth reading wherever you put it!


Oops! I was wrong. Instead of dynamic duo it's the terrific trio. With an acolyte in the middle. :smile:

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Lemmie wrote:No worries.... Whatever you are posting, it will be worth reading wherever you put it!


Oops! I was wrong. Instead of dynamic duo it's the terrific trio. With an acolyte in the middle. :smile:

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"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Maksutov wrote:
Why should we spoon feed you? Are you an adult? If you weren't such a lazy, dishonest person, you'd go do some reading yourself.


Awesome sauce. A couple or three months ago there was a thread where I brought up Grant Hardy's book.

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Boo ... 0199731705

At that time I was bringing up 'stuff' and others that didn't want to take the time to read the book wanted me to 'spoon feed' or prove/show 'stuff' from the book to support what I was talking about, etc. They didn't want to take the time to actually read the book. Were you one of those guys? Can't remember...

And all I asked on this thread from Fionn was the name of ONE book.

Rich.

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mentalgymnast

Are you referring to that time when ONE PERSON in a thread asked you this?
I am just looking for a reasons why I should spent good money and time to read what appears to be another apologetic work. My interest in Mormonism is not that much these days, so I would need a little more then it's a great book. The only person who gave some information didn't give a great review here. I already explained to Consig we don't actually have a location for Nahom above.viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35412&start=105&hilit=grant+hardy%27s+book&p=838560&view=show#p838560

That's some paranoia you're exhibiting, Mr. 'awesome sauce'.
As I read through a number of the comments/reviews starting from the newest first and looking through a few pages I'm not sure that I'd go with your recommendation and spend the money.

I won't cut and paste them here because some of them are kind of long...but you and others can go over to amazon and read them if you want.

Any other book you would recommend that would be more factual/trustworthy?

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mentalgymnast
Your argument fails however, since you just posted (above) an incredibly weak version of a similar objection here, yours however lacks any realistic content so you might want to drop this line of inquiry.
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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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Goya wrote:Why, for example, is a narrative more likely to be scripture?


Hi Goya,

I think you've some back to this question in one form or another a few times now. I've commented on it but while I was out running I had a couple of thoughts. Forgive me if a sort of repeat some of what I've already said...

Years ago I read sections of Course in Miracles.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywor ... 886c_b_p12

This 'scripture' was purportedly channeled through Dr. Helen Schucman. If I'm not mistaken she is/was a fairly well known and respected psychiatrist back in NY. The problem I had with it was that it lacked any kind of cohesive narrative. There wasn't any linear progression. Not that a scriptural work has to have a linear and progressive narrative, but the fact is...I couldn't really make much of what was going on within the text . Any of you that have read it can either agree or disagree with me. It was, as far as I could tell, a bunch of rambling thoughts with Jesus and other figures thrown in for good measure. But nothing really to get a handle on at all. At its best it is a large and thick book full of homilies with some kind of doctrinal underpinnings...but I couldn't really make heads or tails of it.

OTOH, the Book of Mormon is a scriptural narrative with the doctrinal underpinnings embedded withing the linear/historical narrative of real groups of people. Now obviously, if the whole thing is a fabrication,well,then it's as useless as I see the Course In Miracles being. At this juncture let me say that if there are folks that post here that subscribe to the Course in Miracles and take exception to what my experience has been...have at it.

Anyway, I think that a book that has a linear history that shows real people experiencing the 'word of God' and opposition and sin/evil, etc., is much more relevant than a book fool of what are supposed to be inspirational homilies. The Bible is of course a narrative book of scripture on the whole. People. Events. Righteousness. Wickedness. Etc. If God was to place a book of scripture that has His stamp of approval on it I would think (my opinion people :smile: ) it would be in the form of narrative/story.

Everyone loves a story. :smile: We're built that way.

Some random thoughts.

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Lemmie wrote:No worries.... Whatever you are posting, it will be worth reading wherever you put it!


MG wrote:Oops! I was wrong. Instead of dynamic duo it's the terrific trio. With an acolyte in the middle. :smile:

Mak wrote:You can change.


Mak, Lemmie, and grindael. The Terrific Trio- Defenders of all that is Good and True.

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Lemmie wrote:Are you referring to that time when ONE PERSON in a thread asked you this?


Hi Lemmie, nice to see you come in with something that you think is provocative again.

I'm thinking that there was more than just one person on what I remember to be multiple threads (that had some connection or another to Hardy's book) that didn't want to take the time to read Hardy's book and wanted me to regurgitate parts/sections...stuff...so that they wouldn't have to. But I'm sure not going to go back and do a count!

Thanks for your extremely useful contribution. I really don't have much else to say to you though. As you may notice, I have more to say when it comes to other posters. I'm actually able to have what you might call a conversation and/or an interchange of ideas.

You might try it. It's kind of fun. :smile:

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