EdGoble wrote: Because the foregone conclusion is that people like you reject it out of hand only because you don't believe, not because you are willing to discuss it objectively. I already know that you are unwilling to discuss it objectively, only because it contains faith-based elements, so I wasn't looking to talk to people like you about it. I am searching for people like me, and didn't come here to talk with ANY of you of your ilk, because I know that you have nothing substantive to say about it, only that you question its worth because it has elements of belief.
So, since my primary reason for this thread has failed, in that I am trying to find people like me, and none are to be found, if any do find this, my contact information is on my blog.
This is it. Farewell.
Good luck with your Book of Abraham Taffy Pulling Group.
Think of it this way, you are hiring a young person to babysit your kids and you ask him/her if they are experienced, and he/she goes berserk accusing you of being uncharitable and telling you it is their future babysitting with you that matters, not what experience or training they have had in the past that matters. Do you hire this person?
I wasn't applying to you to be hired by you. Farewell
That's what I don't get. Why do this type of work but only ask that it be discussed by people who already believe through faith? What would someone be trying to accomplish with that kind of self-referential, self-indulgent, self-absorbed 'research'? How do you call it research if it is only done within the academic vacuum of faith-based beliefs?
Because the foregone conclusion is that people like you reject it out of hand only because you don't believe, not because you are willing to discuss it objectively. I already know that you are unwilling to discuss it objectively, only because it contains faith-based elements, so I wasn't looking to talk to people like you about it. I am searching for people like me, and didn't come here to talk with ANY of you of your ilk, because I know that you have nothing substantive to say about it, only that you question its worth because it has elements of belief.
So, since my primary reason for this thread has failed, in that I am trying to find people like me, and none are to be found, if any do find this, my contact information is on my blog.
Good luck with your Book of Abraham Taffy Pulling Group.
Good luck to you too, for what its worth, and may your treatment of your fellow man be rewarded upon your head. As you have done it unto the least of these.....
Good luck with your Book of Abraham Taffy Pulling Group.
Good luck to you too, for what its worth, and may your treatment of your fellow man be rewarded upon your head. As you have done it unto the least of these.....
I'm just fine with my fellow man, dude. I don't lack for love or respect. If you're "one of the least" maybe you need to step up and become more than an apologist for a long dead con man. Keep propping up that house of cards and mumbling vague threats at people who disagree with you.
Good luck with your Book of Abraham Taffy Pulling Group.
Good luck to you too, for what its worth, and may your treatment of your fellow man be rewarded upon your head. As you have done it unto the least of these.....
You mean those who have tried to deal with your research with logic, rationality, and some seriously strained patience, asking questions and bringing up legitimate concerns? Thank you, I'll take that 'reward upon [my] head'!!
EdGoble wrote:It's called Ad-hominem to shoot to messenger, regardless of how you try to shoot the messenger. Trying to call into question one's ability to deal with Egyptian based on schooling is the regular tactic. ... My conclusions in my research are the question. Not my schooling. I've had enough of you over there. I refuse to deal with you here. You are as uncharitable as they come.
Nope. I just want to know if you have ever taken the trouble to learn at least the elements of reading Egyptian hieroglyphs. You don't have to go to college - there are books you can study in your own time. Trust me on this .
If you don't even bother to try, is it surprising that people may wonder whether your opinion on an ancient Egyptian document is solidly based?
If someone offered an opinion on the poetry of Boris Pasternak, would you consider it an illegitimate attack if someone asked whether that person had studied Russian?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
EdGoble wrote:It's called Ad-hominem to shoot to messenger, regardless of how you try to shoot the messenger. Trying to call into question one's ability to deal with Egyptian based on schooling is the regular tactic. ... My conclusions in my research are the question. Not my schooling. I've had enough of you over there. I refuse to deal with you here. You are as uncharitable as they come.
Nope. I just want to know if you have ever taken the trouble to learn at least the elements of reading Egyptian hieroglyphs. You don't have to go to college - there are books you can study in your own time. Trust me on this .
If you don't even bother to try, is it surprising that people may wonder whether your opinion on an ancient Egyptian document is solidly based?
If someone offered an opinion on the poetry of Boris Pasternak, would you consider it an illegitimate attack if someone asked whether that person had studied Russian?
Would you like me to post a picture of the huge stack of Egyptian dictionaries and lexicons of the various languages I deal with on my table at home? Don't be an idiot. Of course I do my homework. You people only care about whether I am an academic. You don't give a damn about how much homework I've actually done.
EdGoble wrote:It's called Ad-hominem to shoot to messenger, regardless of how you try to shoot the messenger. Trying to call into question one's ability to deal with Egyptian based on schooling is the regular tactic. ... My conclusions in my research are the question. Not my schooling. I've had enough of you over there. I refuse to deal with you here. You are as uncharitable as they come.
Nope. I just want to know if you have ever taken the trouble to learn at least the elements of reading Egyptian hieroglyphs. You don't have to go to college - there are books you can study in your own time. Trust me on this .
If you don't even bother to try, is it surprising that people may wonder whether your opinion on an ancient Egyptian document is solidly based?
If someone offered an opinion on the poetry of Boris Pasternak, would you consider it an illegitimate attack if someone asked whether that person had studied Russian?
EG wrote:Would you like me to post a picture of the huge stack of Egyptian dictionaries and lexicons of the various languages I deal with on my table at home? Don't be an idiot. Of course I do my homework. You people only care about whether I am an academic. You don't give a damn about how much homework I've actually done.
Now THAT'S an ad hominem attack!!
(Also, pictures of stacks of dictionaries do not constitute credentials. And don't swear. It's not allowed in Celestial.)
EdGoble wrote: Would you like me to post a picture of the huge stack of Egyptian dictionaries and lexicons of the various languages I deal with on my table at home? Don't be an idiot. Of course I do my homework. You people only care about whether I am an academic. You don't give a damn about how much homework I've actually done.
A picture of your desk? Naw, not necessary. A list of your books, well, yes, that would be informative. And I asked about where you studied because reading Egyptian is damned difficult. Middle Egyptian has about 2000 characters. Hieratic, at one time reached about 7,000 characters. EGyptian was far more than merely letters corresponding to an english alphabet. But Demotic put Egyptian sounds into the Greek alphabet, with an additional 7 to 10 characters that didn't fit any alphabet letter.
I have studied Middle Egyptian, basically reading Hieratic written texts re-written in hieroglypic figures. But the grammar is truly perplexing. I wouldn't have suceeded in translating anything without professional guidance and criticism.
It is my honest opinion that merely reading books is not enough to get complete and correct translations of demotic or Hieratic texts.
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love...you make. PMcC
