Chief Joseph and SargonII ties up Book of Mormon DNA

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bomgeography wrote:You need to prove that the symbols are not apart of Nez pierce culture.


No. Tapir is quite right. You are the one making outlandish claims that attempt to refute established scientific views. It's up to you to provide substantial proofs for your theories.

To give an extreme example, If I said that Saturn was made of orange sherbet and you doubted that, would my saying "prove it's not" seem reasonable to you?
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Quasimodo wrote:
To give an extreme example, If I said that Saturn was made of orange sherbet and you doubted that, would my saying "prove it's not" seem reasonable to you?


But I really want it to be made of orange sherbet.
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Themis wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:
To give an extreme example, If I said that Saturn was made of orange sherbet and you doubted that, would my saying "prove it's not" seem reasonable to you?


But I really want it to be made of orange sherbet.


:lol:

Me too! My favorite.
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bomgeography wrote:
You need to prove that the symbols are not apart of Nez pierce culture.


You have failed to provide any credible argument that the Nez Perce beaded floral design has any association with ancient Assyria. The support you use to try to prop up your claim is an inscribed tablet that has zero evidence of having ever been in Chief Joseph's possession and overwhelming evidence of when it actually came in to the United States and who brought it. You are also misrepresenting the meaning of that floral motif among the Nez Perce whose history you are attempting to hijack in a misguided attempt to support your wild and fantastical claims. It is you who is making uneducated and absurd claims. It is you who needs to prove your claim to me and you are failing miserably.
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tapirrider wrote:
bomgeography wrote:The nez pierce cultural ties to Assyria back up the claims made by chief joseph having cuneiform


First of all, Chief Joseph NEVER made any claims of having that tablet. There are absolutely no 19th century documents, photos, records, letters or any source to tie it to him. And there are no ties to ancient Assyria in ancient America, from any credible source, associated with any American Indians....

bomgeo, do you have a response to this, or can I assume that you withdraw your assertion about the tablet?
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The smithsonian article states that it was chief Joseph personal item. Then speculates if it really belonged to him. I think he took the old world tablet and had it in his medicine bag that has the Assyrian star of ashur on it.
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bomgeography wrote:The smithsonian article states that it was chief Joseph personal item. Then speculates if it really belonged to him.

That's incorrect. The article states Snyder said Heintzelman said it belonged to Chief Joseph, and then Heintzelman's story was thoroughly discredited.
bomgeo wrote: I think he took the old world tablet and had it in his medicine bag that has the Assyrian star of ashur on it.

The design on the bag that contained the alleged, discredited artifact is irrelevant.

Bottom line, you have no evidence of this story/legend, nor do its imaginary elements contribute at all to your theory.
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Lemmie wrote:
bomgeography wrote:The smithsonian article states that it was chief Joseph personal item. Then speculates if it really belonged to him.

That's incorrect. The article states Snyder said Heintzelman said it belonged to Chief Joseph, and then Heintzelman's story was thoroughly discredited.
bomgeo wrote: I think he took the old world tablet and had it in his medicine bag that has the Assyrian star of ashur on it.

The design on the bag that contained the alleged, discredited artifact is irrelevant.

Bottom line, you have no evidence of this story/legend, nor do its imaginary elements contribute at all to your theory.


The cultural designs are extremely relevant it takes mental gymnastics to discount the cultural designs.
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bomgeography wrote:
The cultural designs are extremely relevant it takes mental gymnastics to discount the cultural designs.


It takes mental gymnastics to give credence to the theory that those designs have any relation to Assyrian cultures. Geometric designs are common to many cultures all over the world without having any sort of contact with each other. Simple designs are just simple designs. We all do them. Even children in kindergarten recreate similar designs independent of one another.

You must be starting to realize, bomgeography, that you are beating a long dead horse here. Your postulations may find some following among a less educated and more willing audience, but most of the folks on this board (especially those participating in your threads) are much better educated on Book of Mormon history and history in general than you and more than a match for your arguments.
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Not at all, you haven't established a connection. Similar geometric patterns does not a cultural connection make.
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