tapirrider wrote:David, please answer me why you used a fake tribe to try to prop up your claim.
bomgeography wrote: I do not think you read my research my research has nothing to do with a specific tribe. It has to do with artifacts, known comparisons of historians comparing the Cherokee language to Greek. And known Cherokee words that have Greek origins and the research of Dr Donald n Yates.
As far as a comment in the comment section in THIS forum about a specific tribe. Take that up with the Cherokee tribe that you think is fake and the history channel.
David, you are not answering my question and I am taking this matter up with you, not with a fake tribe that IS NOT Cherokee. Let's review what is going on here.
tapirrider wrote:All anyone has to do is read the Bureau of Indian Affairs final determination against granting the Central Band of Cherokee federal tribal status. It is signed by Larry Echo Hawk, who is now an LDS general authority. http://bia.gov/cs/groups/xofa/documents ... 017585.pdf
The BIA document tells is all. It lays out the efforts and pseudo nonsense that Joe White (a.k.a. Sitting Owl) and others tried to use to get federal recognition of their fake tribe. Page 18 sums it all up by stating that not even one of the so called Indians could show that they were descended from any Indian tribe.
"The evidence shows the petitioner’s members and claimed ancestors were consistently identified as non-Indians living in non-Indian communities."
"none of the group’s members have demonstrated descent from a historical Indian tribe or tribes that combined."
David, they are fakes, frauds and not even Cherokee. So again I am asking you, why did you present them to me?
Obviously the history channel does not. You should talk to them about it.
bomgeography wrote:I do not think you read my research my research has nothing to do with a specific tribe. It has to do with artifacts, known comparisons of historians comparing the Cherokee language to Greek. And known Cherokee words that have Greek origins and the research of Dr Donald n Yates.
As far as a comment in the comment section in THIS forum about a specific tribe. Take that up with the Cherokee tribe that you think is fake and the history channel.
tapirrider wrote:David, they are fakes, frauds and not even Cherokee. So again I am asking you, why did you present them to me?
Obviously the history channel does not. You should talk to them about it.
actually, I'd also like to hear from you your reasons, especially since your article has everything to do with a specific tribe. Here are excerpts from the first two sentences of your OP blog post entitled Cherokee Zoramites:
bomgeo wrote:...the Cherokee Native Americans are the Zoramites listed in the Book of Mormon.... It became apparent that a Greek influence was... strongest among the Cherokee tribe....
bomgeography wrote:I do not think you read my research my research has nothing to do with a specific tribe. It has to do with artifacts, known comparisons of historians comparing the Cherokee language to Greek. And known Cherokee words that have Greek origins and the research of Dr Donald n Yates.
As far as a comment in the comment section in THIS forum about a specific tribe. Take that up with the Cherokee tribe that you think is fake and the history channel.
tapirrider wrote:David, they are fakes, frauds and not even Cherokee. So again I am asking you, why did you present them to me?
Obviously the history channel does not. You should talk to them about it.
actually, I'd also like to hear from you your reasons, especially since your article has everything to do with a specific tribe. Here are excerpts from the first two sentences of your OP blog post entitled Cherokee Zoramites:
bomgeo wrote:...the Cherokee Native Americans are the Zoramites listed in the Book of Mormon.... It became apparent that a Greek influence was... strongest among the Cherokee tribe....
Tapir is talking about one specific Cherokee tribe I was talking about the Cherokee nation as a whole having Greek words in their lexicon etc.
bomgeography wrote: Obviously the history channel does not. You should talk to them about it.
David, this is between you and me. I am talking to you about it and taking it up with you. The cold, hard facts are that the Central Band of Cherokee ARE NOT Cherokee, nor are they an American Indian tribe. None of their members can prove ancestral descent from ANY American Indian tribe. Now, those are the facts.
So I'm asking you again, why are you presenting a fake tribe to me? Have you considered that the History Channel episode was far earlier in time than the Bureau of Indian Affairs final determination? http://bia.gov/cs/groups/xofa/documents ... 017585.pdf
Do you understand that you are using an old episode on a TV program in lieu of current and official documents by the Bureau of Indian Affairs? Do you realize how ludicrous it is to tell me to talk to the history channel?
David, let's deal in facts. The fact is that the Central Band of Cherokee ARE NOT Cherokee, nor are they American Indians. So for the last time, please answer why you presented me with a fake tribe to prop up your claims?
actually, I'd also like to hear from you your reasons, especially since your article has everything to do with a specific tribe. Here are excerpts from the first two sentences of your OP blog post entitled Cherokee Zoramites:
bomgeo wrote:...the Cherokee Native Americans are the Zoramites listed in the Book of Mormon.... It became apparent that a Greek influence was... strongest among the Cherokee tribe....
Tapir is talking about one specific Cherokee tribe I was talking about the Cherokee nation as a whole having Greek words in their lexicon etc.
don't talk to me about tapir's questions. you need to answer him directly or withdraw your assertion.
bomgeography wrote: It's more than just Joseph Smith day. It includes the16th 17th 18th and 19th century. Current confirmed artifacts, DNA, language, culture.
No doubt the idea existed before Joseph. I have yet to see any confirmed artifacts that have their origin in the Americas, nor any real language/cultural connections by the relevant scientific fields.
Now the DNA is to old, but I am wondering if you believe in a young earth? Do you believe in a world wide flood 4-5k years ago?