Christ visit and the Mik Maq Nephites

[_Lemmie]

When I stop finding evidence to the contrary I can see myself stopping. But the DNA artifact cultural and language evidence keeps presenting itself.

You have been posting the same discredited links, based on the same discredited information, since you began posting. Your references are hundreds of years old and constitute no evidence whatsoever.

I predict you will respond to this with a complete non sequitur composed of more fake information, why? What's your point?

Last time I checked father Chretian Le clercq writings are not discredited.

DID I CALL IT OR WHAT?!!!!! you're a joke, bomgeo.

[_bomgeography]

You proved absolutely nothing all of father Chretian Le clercq writings about Mik Maq customs, beliefs, tradition and language are legit thank you lemmie

[_Dr. Shades]

Until then you are nothing but a liar trying to spread racist claims about American Indians.

[MODERATOR NOTE: tapirrider, please do not use phrases such as "you are nothing but a liar" in the Celestial Forum. Please save such accusations for the Terrestrial and Telestial Fora only.

Thank you.]

[_moksha]

bomgeography, here is a fragment of an ancient song that may cement your position.

The legend lives on from the Mik Maq on down
Of the ships made with curious construction
From Nahom the sailed, despite Pacific gales
To the welcoming jungles of limited Yucatan
With schmeared bagels galore, golden plates they bore
The pioneer Lehites were never empty
Wrapped with cougar blue they were hopeful it's true
When the beach Cureloms looked so burly...

[_tapirrider]

Until then you are nothing but a liar trying to spread racist claims about American Indians.

[MODERATOR NOTE: tapirrider, please do not use phrases such as "you are nothing but a liar" in the Celestial Forum. Please save such accusations for the Terrestrial and Telestial Fora only.

Thank you.]

Please move this entire post of David McKane's to the Terrestrial or better yet the Telestial forum. He is making inflammatory and racist statements and claims about and against living American Indians and as such his posting does not belong in the Celestial forum. He is also being dishonest and less than truthful and should not have a free pass to do so without being called out on it simply because he posted in a forum that grants him amnesty from rebuttal.

[_tapirrider]

Last time I checked father Chretian Le clercq writings are not discredited.

That is the problem with your so-called research. You cherry pick only for what you want to see and you fail to fully grasp or understand the shortcomings of early writings about American Indians. You do not consider the religious bias that distorts the author's perspective and a plethora of other deficiencies when trying to take writings such as Le Clercq's and attribute them to your reality. The same has happened with early Spanish writings, early US writings, etc.

David, you promoted Adair's book on the Cherokee, using that as evidence that they were Hebrew without considering his bias or the later work of researchers who reached accurate conclusions about Adair. Now you are making the same errors with early French writings. For some examples of the problems in making your claims, see:

The Embattled Northeast: The Elusive Ideal of Alliance in Abenaki
https://books.google.com/books?id=Gu7ws ... &q&f=false

[_bomgeography]

My conclusions are based on the factual observations made by historians throughout the centuries. If you think I'm lying then prove it. Otherwise you are making nothing but pointless personal attacks unfit for the celestial forum. Tapir you can save your pointless personal attacks for the telestial and terrestrial forum

[_SteelHead]

The problem with your 200 year old sources is that more recent research has shown the conclusions to be false.

[_tapirrider]

If you think I'm lying then prove it. Otherwise you are making nothing but pointless personal attacks unfit for the celestial forum. Tapir you can save your pointless personal attacks for the telestial and terrestrial forum

David, you better try harder to keep your story straight. Why did you say this?

The Central Cherokee band tribe is not in my research. In a comment on this blog I did mention the claims made by the central Cherokee band tribe wanting to be their own recognized tribe.

I was the one who mentioned their wanting to be recognized as a tribe. I brought that up because the BIA documents contain all of the facts necessary to prove that they are not Indians. They are nothing but a group of whites pretending to be something that they are not.

You did not bring up that they wanted federal recognition. I did. David, here is a nickle's worth of free advice: If you are going to dishonestly make claims for something you did not do, don't make those claims to the person whose words you stole.

Your point in mentioning the Central Band of Cherokee was to try to support your research with the claim that there is a so-called tribe who believed they were from Hebrew descent. I unraveled the truth about them and you began changing your tune to the song of "I don't care about them" and "They were never in my research". And for your grand finale, "I mentioned them wanting to be a recognized tribe".

David, you are a liar.

[_Maksutov]

My conclusions are based on the factual observations made by historians throughout the centuries. If you think I'm lying then prove it. Otherwise you are making nothing but pointless personal attacks unfit for the celestial forum. Tapir you can save your pointless personal attacks for the telestial and terrestrial forum

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So you're in the celestial forum because you need protection from the big bad people who demand evidence.

To recognize that you're being dishonest isn't a personal attack, it's an observation of your behavior. I agree with tapirrider that you're being dishonest. You haven't owned up to the fact that you have no scholars or otherwise credible individuals to back up your claims and views. Instead you end up reaching back into the 17th century to cherry pick statements that have not been corroborated and indeed have been refuted. You have provided no evidence of anything like Reformed Egyptian. You haven't answered the concerns that people have with Joseph Smith's association with the Book of Mormon based upon his demonstrated frauds and hoaxes, before the Book of Mormon and after it. You rely on confirmation bias, special pleading, circular arguments, evasions and burden shifting.

Nothing personal. But it's also relevant that you must keep the company of convicted racists to publish the farcical views of your pretended authorities. Really, you aren't helping the cause of Mormonism by associating it with all of these disgusting reactionary and irrational elements. And that, my deluded friend, is on you.