bomgeography wrote:The Bible is written by people who lived thousands of years ago with whatever knowledge base they had at that time.
The purpose of the Bible and scripture is bring people closer to God and Christ. In that way it does it just fine.
As to what Noah's train of thought and understanding was when he recorded the flood only God and Noah know
Okay. And the Book of Mormon was a novel that was supposed to be inspirational ("bring people closer to God and Christ") and maybe make a few bucks. But then some people thought it could be more and here we are.
There are all kinds of books that people claim bring them closer to God. It's been going on for thousands of years. But yours is the one that deserves special treatment, suspension of disbelief and skepticism.
I also disagree with the idea that a racist narrative is required to inspire people. Instead it's an apologia for white supremacy. Only inspiring if you're a white supremacist...
Off the top of my head I consider the creation account timeline as figurative but is important in dividing the week into seven days. The flood I think is local. That's all I can think of as of right now.
I suppose our Vichy Mormon friend bomgeo would argue that Noah & Co. were able to go around gathering millions of examples of seeds, spores and cuttings. When they weren't wrangling elephants and crocodiles.
You've given me a mental image of various plants and trees marching two by two into the Ark. Kinda like Ents in Lord of the Rings.
See, that's the thing, Quasi. Back in the day, these illiterate sheepherders needed entertainment. There weren't any stories about Ents or The Day of the Trifids so they had to make do with what they had. And so, like the Greeks and the Hindus, they all made up crazy stories about their gods to kill time, scare the kids, and come up with lame analogies. They justified their dickishness with crap like God saying it was okay to genocide the Canaanites, and dissing the goat herders and swine herders and the other Jews, even to the point of blaming them for the actions of the Romans. Mean stories made up to rewrite history.
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bomgeography wrote:The Bible is written by people who lived thousands of years ago with whatever knowledge base they had at that time.
The purpose of the Bible and scripture is bring people closer to God and Christ. In that way it does it just fine.
As to what Noah's train of thought and understanding was when he recorded the flood only God and Noah know
Okay. And the Book of Mormon was a novel that was supposed to be inspirational ("bring people closer to God and Christ") and maybe make a few bucks. But then some people thought it could be more and here we are.
There are all kinds of books that people claim bring them closer to God. It's been going on for thousands of years. But yours is the one that deserves special treatment, suspension of disbelief and skepticism.
I also disagree with the idea that a racist narrative is required to inspire people. Instead it's an apologia for white supremacy. Only inspiring if you're a white supremacist...
The only thing I would say to your white supremacist theories is that all the whites and there is a Caucasian DNA marker among Native Americans. all the white people die that is not a very inspirational white supremacist story.
Second of all we live in a very racial charged society it's unreasonable that their society would be different then our society.
There are many inconsistencies with the story of Noah's Ark. It is easy to find flaws in the story and quickly dismiss it. That is the doubters way. However in the search for evidence of Noah's Ark many fascinating elements of nature have been found. There is evidence of a flood. And there are stories and several cultures about the flood. There are also stories of the last ice age in the melting of it. But there are also other spiritual considerations that the ark was some sort of symbol. I don't believe that it was a boat necessarily. Or that it had two of every animal on Earth. But in the old books there are references to the god of the world trying to kill the human race with the flood.
Okay. And the Book of Mormon was a novel that was supposed to be inspirational ("bring people closer to God and Christ") and maybe make a few bucks. But then some people thought it could be more and here we are.
There are all kinds of books that people claim bring them closer to God. It's been going on for thousands of years. But yours is the one that deserves special treatment, suspension of disbelief and skepticism.
I also disagree with the idea that a racist narrative is required to inspire people. Instead it's an apologia for white supremacy. Only inspiring if you're a white supremacist...
The only thing I would say to your white supremacist theories is that all the whites and there is a Caucasian DNA marker among Native Americans. all the white people die that is not a very inspirational white supremacist story.
Second of all we live in a very racial charged society it's unreasonable that their society would be different then our society.
I don't have white supremacist theories. You do. It's at the root of your scriptures, the actions of your church and the premise of your website and a published belief of your associates.
Themis wrote: Why accept other parts of the story when making it a local event destroys the whole point of the story?
I disagree
I can understand. Many don't want to take time to see why they might be wrong so avoid the discussion if you can. Noah is a fictional character with a fictional story. These kind of stories from ancients are common. Local flood are common, so stories about floods abound in history. They tend to be changed and really added to over time to what we see today. God would not need to make some guy waste so much energy and resources for a local flood. That is the point of the story. Noah needed to build a ship to save mankind and all the animals.
