Nephite (Hopewell Mik Maq) Old World Burial Rites and Ritual

[_bomgeography]

What do you guys think of this. It has some updated information.

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... world.html

[_CameronMO]

It has some updated information.

[_Maksutov]

Looks like cherrypicking parallelism, like before. It's about as valid as these silly Facebook slideshows that show how Nicolas Cage and John Travolta were time travelers.

http://www.today.com/id/44721179/ns/tod ... uries-old/

Taking superficial resemblances out of context as evidence and ignoring all of the huge systemic problems is pretty much what you've got. Enjoy it. You have plenty of other pseudoscientific and pseudohistorical hobbyists to keep you company.

[_tapirrider]

5,000 year old mortuary methods and burial traditions were still being practiced by the Shawnee in the 1830s. See this study: Evidence of Ritualized Mortuary Behavior at the Meyer Site: An Inadvertant Discovery in Spencer County, Indiana (3,300 B.C.)

David McKane, they were doing this before the time of Noah's flood and before the alleged arrival of the fantasy people known as the Jaradites. They were practicing the same burial traditions before and after the fictional claims made in the Book of Mormon about the Nephites. And they did it uninterrupted through all that time. So what do I think of your latest cherry picking? You are simply wrong in the conclusions that you arrive at.

The best thing you could do is just leave American Indians alone, David McKane. You don't know them, you don't understand them, you apparently have no interest in the current events going on right now with them and your continued promotion of pseudohistory and pseudoarchaeology is nothing more than a prop to try to give legitimacy to the racist claims made in the Book of Mormon.

[_Quasimodo]

OK, I followed your click bate (your welcome).

The funeral traditions you posted are common throughout the world. Nothing to see here. Tombs and stone lined burials are found everywhere. This one is from Scotland. Maybe the Hopewell were Scottish. After all, Hopewell is an English name and that's close.



To paraphrase "The Sopranos", have you ever pondered the connection between the hunch back of Notre Dame and the halfbacks and quarterbacks of Notre Dame? It makes you think.

[_Maksutov]

5,000 year old mortuary methods and burial traditions were still being practiced by the Shawnee in the 1830s. See this study: Evidence of Ritualized Mortuary Behavior at the Meyer Site: An Inadvertant Discovery in Spencer County, Indiana (3,300 B.C.)

David McKane, they were doing this before the time of Noah's flood and before the alleged arrival of the fantasy people known as the Jaradites. They were practicing the same burial traditions before and after the fictional claims made in the Book of Mormon about the Nephites. And they did it uninterrupted through all that time. So what do I think of your latest cherry picking? You are simply wrong in the conclusions that you arrive at.

The best thing you could do is just leave American Indians alone, David McKane. You don't know them, you don't understand them, you apparently have no interest in the current events going on right now with them and your continued promotion of pseudohistory and pseudoarchaeology is nothing more than a prop to try to give legitimacy to the racist claims made in the Book of Mormon.

I'm reminded of the career of Carlos Castaneda when I look at these materials. And Marlo Morgan. T. Lobsang Rampa. And many others. People who create fantasies about indigenous and other people for their own exploitive, self-aggrandizing purposes. Deeply disrespectful and actually racist.

[_Quasimodo]

I'm reminded of the career of Carlos Castaneda when I look at these materials. And Marlo Morgan. T. Lobsang Rampa. And many others. People who create fantasies about indigenous and other people for their own exploitive, self-aggrandizing purposes. Deeply disrespectful and actually racist.

My wife is half Yaqui. I have asked her relatives about Don Juan (they had all read the books) and none of them had ever heard of Castaneda from any of their family. They also said that the peyote and other hallucinogenic rituals are definitely not part of Yaqui culture.

My wife also gives me a very stony stare if I call her a Lamanite.

[_bomgeography]

OK, I followed your click bate (your welcome).

The funeral traditions you posted are common throughout the world. Nothing to see here. Tombs and stone lined burials are found everywhere. This one is from Scotland. Maybe the Hopewell were Scottish. After all, Hopewell is an English name and that's close.



To paraphrase "The Sopranos", have you ever pondered the connection between the hunch back of Notre Dame and the halfbacks and quarterbacks of Notre Dame? It makes you think.

There is a genetic link between Scotland and the Hopewell. The Orkney Islands just north of Scotland and Ireland have the highest concentration of Haplo Group X in western Europe. Its a small percentage but compared to other haplo group x concentrations its relatively high. that area is also well known in using the greek cross or in that area its mostly called the sun cross. And we all know that Isreal is the place that Haplo Group x distributed from. My opinion is this haplo group x movement North fits the Bible perfectly. There are people that believe the welsh and that part of the area made it to North America. But the 200BC greek cross tells us that it arrived from the OLD world not Ireland or Scotland.

“These Galilee Druze individuals represent the refugium of an ancestral group with high diversity and high frequency of haplogroup X, which was more prevalent in the region in antiquity, and from which the global diversity of X mtDNA haplogroup emerged.”

a relatively high percentage of haplogroup X are the Druzes of Lebanon, Syria and Israel, among whom X makes up 15% of maternal lineages.


In Western Europe, X peaks in Orkney (7%)

[_bomgeography]

OK, I followed your click bate (your welcome).

The funeral traditions you posted are common throughout the world. Nothing to see here. Tombs and stone lined burials are found everywhere. This one is from Scotland. Maybe the Hopewell were Scottish. After all, Hopewell is an English name and that's close.



To paraphrase "The Sopranos", have you ever pondered the connection between the hunch back of Notre Dame and the halfbacks and quarterbacks of Notre Dame? It makes you think.

I noticed genetic and some cultural link between the Hopewell Old World and the Irish/Scottish prehistory remains and genetics. At first I was working on tying all three together but decided to leave out the Irish part of it but the fact that they bury their dead the same as the old world and Hopewell is a definite plus.

In all, at least thirteen real tribes, five unidentified tribes, and three unnamed tribes have been suggested as "Welsh Indians."[42] Eventually, the legend settled on identifying the Welsh Indians with the Mandan people, who were said to differ from their neighbours in culture, language, and appearance. The painter George Catlin suggested the Mandans were descendants of Madoc and his fellow voyagers in North American Indians (1841); he found the round Mandan Bull Boat similar to the Welsh coracle, and he thought the advanced architecture of Mandan villages must have been learned from Europeans (advanced North American societies such as the Mississippian and Hopewell traditions were not well known in Catlin's time). Supporters of this claim have drawn links between Madoc and the Mandan mythological figure "Lone Man", who, according to one tale, protected some villagers from a flooding river with a wooden corral.[43]

[_Lemmie]

What do you guys think of this. It has some updated information.

http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... world.html

what exactly is updated or different? It looks like the cobbling together of several of your older, already discredited entries, including the extremely offensive link at the end, where you name Cherokees as 'lighter-skinned' nephites, because you think they have 'Caucasian' dna. All of this has been thoroughly discredited as research, so I ask again, what is new?