Now you have two different threads going where you are placing your identical errors? ok, from the other thread:
Lemmie wrote:
bomgeography wrote:What I meant is that it's the closest genetic link to Native American haplo group x2a. And it's only found in Iran....
You corrected your error for tapirrider I see, but your statements above are still wrong.
The geographic distribution of X2a’j haplotypes —especially those with some of the defining mutations for X2a (indicating that they belong to the lineage that led to X2a) — would be informative to this question, but no contemporary or ancient individuals belonging to these lineages have been identified, with the possible exception of one individual from Iran with the X2a’j defining transition at mitochondrial nucleotide position 12397. However, because this transition has been observed in other haplogroups and is known to occur recurrently, it is unclear if this Iranian individual belongs to the X2a’j lineage or not (Reidla et al. 2003).... [W]ithout identifying more individuals bearing X2j or X2a’j lineages, any inferences about the geographic origins of X2a’j or X2a are very tenuous.
[size=150]Thus, at this time, there is simply no evidence that X2a evolved in the Near East, Europe, or anywhere in West Eurasia….
Does Mitochondrial Haplogroup X Indicate Ancient Trans-Atlantic Migration to the Americas? A Critical Re-Evaluation, Jennifer A. Raff & Deborah A. Bolnick (2015) http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1 ... ccess=true
Did you read the article quoted above? It's been presented to you many times, it is published in a peer-reviewed journal by a legitimate academic researcher, and represents a tremendous amount of research.
If you want to continue, you need to explain why your statements, which NO ONE in the academic community interested in these topics agrees with, should be given any weight. Simply re-stating them with no support, inappropriate or missing attributions, and with missing context is nonsensical.
bomgeography wrote:Haplo group X is to believed to have originated in North Africa or the Middle East it matches the Bible and Book of Mormon
It cannot possibly match the Bible and Book of Mormon because haplogroup x originated more than 30,000 years ago and then began the mutations that make up the individual haplogroups such as x1, x2a, x2b, x2c, x2a'j, etc. It simply does not match the timelines that you are trying to fit it in, and your claim is not supported by the evidence that scientists have studied and published about.
David, the specific haplogroups in the Near East that you are trying to match up to the Americas are not ancestral to X2a. The common ancestors date back long before the Bible. Kennwick man's DNA analysis proves that it was already in America thousands of years before the Book of Mormon timeline and even before the Biblical timeline of Adam.
Haplo group X most likely originated in North Africa and diseninated from Israel. Israel has the most diversity of X. According to the Bible and Book of Mormon. The tribe of Manasseh started in Egypt North Africa and then went to Israel then Iran back to Israel then to North America it's a match
bomgeography wrote:The Bible and Book of Mormon is the only thing that legitametly explains how haplo group X arrived in North America
David McKane, are you saying that science is not legitimate? Is that what is required to believe in the Book of Mormon? To disregard DNA and archaeological evidence, to decide that radiocarbon dating is wrong and to ignore the credibility of leading scientists? Perhaps it is a conspiracy with scientists and the Smithsonian to hide evidence? Is that how it is? Moroni's promise isn't enough so one must put on a tin foil hat and lose one's mind?
bomgeography wrote:The middle east fiery flying serpents match up with native American middle east dna.
Wait, WHAT?? The DNA from venomous flying snakes matches the DNA of both Native Americans and Semitic peoples??
In what possible way?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
You guys are silly in this connection it is in fiery flying serpents not DNA. But DNA is impressive.
Fiery flying serpents in the RECORD of Moses is thought to be a specific adder in the Middle East. The lamanites took the fast striking adder as literal. Interesting I know. And yes Mormoni 10 proves everything. Robert Millet stated "The scriptures give several clues, which indicate that it most likely belonged to the deadly saw-scale viper family, considered by many scientists to be "the world's most dangerous snake."
There are at least ten clues in the scriptures to help identify the serpent lifted up in the wilderness. Let us consider each of them. 2.1 Inhabit Arava Valley. At the time of Moses the serpent in question inhabited the Arava Valley. While it is not an absolute requirement, one would expect the serpent to still inhabit that area today.
2.2 Prefer Rocky Terrain. Why did the Israelites only run into these serpents during the difficult journey through the rocky Arava valley area? They had no such problems in the sandy valley areas of the Sinai where the Israelites probably camped during much of their travels. This suggests a snake which prefers rocky terrain.
2.3 Deadly poisonous. The venom from the serpent was apparently extremely poisonous because it caused so many deaths, and apparently needed miraculous intervention to prevent death.
2.4 Extremely dangerous. Those who study serpents make a distinction between "deadly" and "dangerous." Deadly refers to how poisonous the venom is, whereas dangerous means that the snake actually causes many fatalities every year. Most of the world's snakes with the most deadly venom are not classified as the world's most dangerous snakes. Australia is home to several snakes with the most deadly venom in the world. The aggressive Inland Taipan is considered to be the most "deadly snake" in the world, but it is found in such remote areas of Australia that bites and fatalities from this snake are rare. Other Australian snakes frequent populated areas but are secretive or only inject venom in about 10% of their bites. These facts plus the miracle of modern treatments limit fatalities in Australia from snake bite to about five per year.[4]
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