bomgeography wrote: I'm more curious as to what your answer is. And for you it's hypothetical but bountiful artifacts would have Bible depictions, heiroglyphs and Christ depiction correct or not?
My answer to what? Have you asked me a question that I missed?
There is nothing hypothetical in what I have been addressing you with David. You are using known fraudulent, hoax artifacts. No authentic objects have ever been found that correspond to what you are claiming the city of Bountiful artifacts would look like.
bomgeography wrote: I'm more curious as to what your answer is. And for you it's hypothetical but bountiful artifacts would have Bible depictions, heiroglyphs and Christ depiction correct or not?
My answer to what? Have you asked me a question that I missed?
There is nothing hypothetical in what I have been addressing you with David. You are using known fraudulent, hoax artifacts. No authentic objects have ever been found that correspond to what you are claiming the city of Bountiful artifacts would look like.
Here is my question. Do you believe that city of bountiful artifacts are or would have Bible depictions, heiroglyphs and Christ depictions?
That's my question I know my answer what's is yours. I hope that clarifies my question. I'm really interested in what your answer is.
bomgeography wrote: Here is my question. Do you believe that city of bountiful artifacts are or would have Bible depictions, heiroglyphs and Christ depictions?
That's my question I know my answer what's is yours. I hope that clarifies my question. I'm really interested in what your answer is.
David McKane, you already know that I believe the Book of Mormon to be a work of fiction. To me your question is no different than asking me what I think real Hobbits would look like.
You are using known hoax artifacts and arguing that real ones should look like these. How about you deal more openly and honestly. Go ahead and admit that you think these fraudulent objects are real because you think that if there were real ones, they should look like these fake items.
bomgeography wrote: Here is my question. Do you believe that city of bountiful artifacts are or would have Bible depictions, heiroglyphs and Christ depictions?
That's my question I know my answer what's is yours. I hope that clarifies my question. I'm really interested in what your answer is.
David McKane, you already know that I believe the Book of Mormon to be a work of fiction. To me your question is no different than asking me what I think real Hobbits would look like.
You are using known hoax artifacts and arguing that real ones should look like these. How about you deal more openly and honestly. Go ahead and admit that you think these fraudulent objects are real because you think that if there were real ones, they should look like these fake items.
Interesting, your right I believe the Michigan relics are city of bountiful artifacts.
bomgeography wrote:Interesting, your right I believe the Michigan relics are city of bountiful artifacts.
Interesting that I was right? Why? You have said before that you believe they are real.
You believe the Michigan artifacts are real and you believe this in the face of all verifiable evidence that they are nothing but hoax artifacts. You go against the conclusion of all scholars including an LDS apostle scientist, and you stand as a witness that LDS apostles and a prophet screwed up and gave away such valuable treasures from the City of Bountiful. Tell me David, how does it feel to belong to a church that gave away that artifact of Christ's crucifixion to be placed in a hoax museum? But you know that the Michigan relics are real because they look exactly like what you think artifacts from the City of Bountiful should look like.
bomgeography wrote: These artifacts are confirmed.
Nothing in your links look anything like the Michigan relics. Why do you suppose that is? The American Indian artifact in your third link is not a Jewish Hamsa symbol and your fourth link is a repeat of your haplogroup x2a'j claims, a subject which you have no hope of ever winning.
bomgeography wrote:Interesting, your right I believe the Michigan relics are city of bountiful artifacts.
Interesting that I was right? Why? You have said before that you believe they are real.
You believe the Michigan artifacts are real and you believe this in the face of all verifiable evidence that they are nothing but hoax artifacts. You go against the conclusion of all scholars including an LDS apostle scientist, and you stand as a witness that LDS apostles and a prophet screwed up and gave away such valuable treasures from the City of Bountiful. Tell me David, how does it feel to belong to a church that gave away that artifact of Christ's crucifixion to be placed in a hoax museum? But you know that the Michigan relics are real because they look exactly like what you think artifacts from the City of Bountiful should look like.
bomgeography wrote: These artifacts are confirmed.
Nothing in your links look anything like the Michigan relics. Why do you suppose that is? The American Indian artifact in your third link is not a Jewish Hamsa symbol and your fourth link is a repeat of your haplogroup x2a'j claims, a subject which you have no hope of ever winning.
Since this is a discussion board, could you give some evidence in support of this? On the other hand, you've shopped this stuff all over the internet and no one is buying it so maybe think through your research. I thought this person's comment to you when you tried it on MormonStories almost year ago is still very timely and very poignant:
RLeeG January 29, 2016 at 12:54 pm it feels strange to read posts like David’s now because I was once like David. I found some old ones on the internet, long ones, where I wrote up the greatest evidences I had to defend Mormonism. I thought they were great. Go ahead and prove me wrong, I thought. I am right. Look at this great scholarship I am referencing and discussing and studying.
Now I read those old posts and cringe in embarrassment. I realize now that those I was arguing with passionately were probably thinking, “Wow. Look at this guy. Hey guys, come read this guy’s crazy posts!” Cause when I go back and read them, that is what I am thinking. It’s almost like it must have been someone else. That couldn’t have been me.
David, your posts and references are not convincing. They are full of straw man arguments that attempt to completely deflect the focus away from why the Book of Mormon is not supported by any serious archeologists outside the LDS community.
Not only that, but Clay has already explained that behind these, are a thousand other obstacles you have to pole vault and gymnastics your way around to make the church true. I did it. I deconstructed. Reconstructed. The nuanced constructs of faith I created would impress anyone.
Then one day, I zoomed out and looked at what I had built and was like, WHAT!??!! Craziness. Sheer craziness. What I had built wasn’t even Mormonism any longer. It was just insanity.... http://www.mormonstories.org/thirteen-y ... ristensen/
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