What the city of bountiful artifacts would look like

[_tapirrider]

People have been predicting the end of the church for almost two hundred years. The church has never stopped growing.

Nobody on this forum has disproved that the Hopewell are not the Nephites. Your response was to do my own research that's hilarious.

I have done hundreds of hours of research on the Hopewell and historical accounts of different tribes.

You have not researched, you have cherry picked. The Michigan relics are a proven hoax. It is firmly established that they are not Hopewell artifacts, they are late 19th century frauds. The same with the elephant effigy pipes that you have used in your so-called research. And your misuse of science in making your DNA claims leaves those claims without any credibility. David McKane, there is no need to "disproved that Hopewell are not the Nephites". Real, honest and authentic research and all credible evidence firmly establishes an entirely different picture about the Hopewell culture, a reality that does not match up at all to your claims. But the truth isn't what you want to face, is it?

[_Themis]

People have been predicting the end of the church for almost two hundred years. The church has never stopped growing.

So? JW's are in no danger of disappearing and they came well after the LDS church. In fact that is one of the church's you would need to join for your little pascal's wager you tried.

Nobody on this forum has disproved that the Hopewell are not the Nephites.

You did a good job of it.

I have done hundreds of hours of research on the Hopewell and historical accounts of different tribes.

It's not the hours you put in, but how you analyze the evidence. You start with a much higher desire for the Book of Mormon to be true then a desire to know what is true. The outcome has been clear with your postings, and like Bigfoot apologists, easily seen as false.

[_bomgeography]

You guys laugh now but that's not going to last forever. The only things that last forever are the eternal principles taught in the gospel.


All of you have faith or hope I'm wrong. That God is not a Mormon God.
One day you'll find out for sure and if your beliefs are misplaced it's going to suck.

[_Maksutov]

You guys laugh now but that's not going to last forever. The only things that last forever are the eternal principles taught in the gospel.


All of you have faith or hope I'm wrong. That God is not a Mormon God.
One day you'll find out for sure and if your beliefs are misplaced it's going to suck.

Gotcha, Mormon!

[_Lemmie]

All of you have faith or hope I'm wrong. That God is not a Mormon God.
One day you'll find out for sure and if your beliefs are misplaced it's going to suck.

My opinion on this topic has nothing to do with beliefs, faith or hope.

Like I said on page 3: "I was talking about you and only you when I said you put '...illogical, uneducated and very poorly thought-out pseudo-scientific random bits of nonsense out in front of readers.'"

To go back to that topic:

Nobody on this forum has disproved that the Hopewell are not the Nephites. Your response was to do my own research that's hilarious.

I have done hundreds of hours of research on the Hopewell and historical accounts of different tribes.

Every poster on every thread you've started here has given facts that disprove your insult to the Hopewell era. But since you've used the Ohio archeology site a number of times, let's hear from them about this 'Hopewells are Nephites' hypothesis:

The January/February issue of the Skeptical Inquirer, “the magazine for science & reason,” includes the final installment in a three-part series of articles written by physical anthropologist Deborah Bolnick, archaeologist Ken Feder, historian Terry Barnhart (a former Curator of History for the Ohio Historical Society), and me responding to the claims put forward in the video documentary The Lost Civilizations of North America.

The title of this article is “Civilizations Lost and Found: Fabricating History. Part Three: Real Messages in DNA” and it addresses the claim made in the documentary that the presence of the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup “X” in American Indian populations provides evidence for a pre-Columbian migration of Israelites to the Americas. It does not.

The article concludes:

“There is no credible evidence to suggest that any Old World peoples migrated to the Americas after the initial incursion from Siberia prior to the tentative forays of the Norse beginning at around 1000 CE other than limited contacts between Siberia and the American arctic.”

For more information on what we’re learning from studying ancient Hopewell DNA, check out these previous blog posts:

Ancient DNA from the Ohio Hopewell

http://ohio-archaeology.blogspot.com/20 ... ewell.html

Brad Lepper

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[_tapirrider]

You guys laugh now but that's not going to last forever. The only things that last forever are the eternal principles taught in the gospel.


All of you have faith or hope I'm wrong. That God is not a Mormon God.
One day you'll find out for sure and if your beliefs are misplaced it's going to suck.

David McKane, I'm not laughing at you, because what you are doing is not funny. Perpetuating racism is no laughing matter. As for the "eternal principles taught in the gospel", your fabricated so-called evidence has nothing to do with that. And in fact, you are going against your church's position on the Michigan relics as well as their stand on physical evidence. So perhaps before trying to make fire and brimstone threats to me, you might want to consider yourself first.

You openly stated here that you think your church made a mistake. You can only hope that you are not wrong. Disagreeing with the church leads the misguided to a very slippery slope. Where do you think the FLDS came from? From folks not much different from you who claimed that the church made a mistake.

You contribute to a division among the members of the church and then threaten me that I better hope that God is not a Mormon God. David McKane, your nutcase ideas about American Indians and the racism you openly promote is headed into the direction of apostasy from your church. You don't have a leg to stand on. How dare you try to insinuate that the God who you are not following will make things suck for me in some future existence?

There is no reason for me to hope that you are wrong, because none of your claims really have anything to do with the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon or of the LDS church. You can be entirely wrong, which I'm convinced you are, and it doesn't have any impact whatsoever on whether or not the Book of Mormon is true. It just means that you are wrong. You seem to have your salvation tied to your hobby ideas and now it would appear that you are trying to project that on to me. Something is wrong.