LittleNipper wrote: I sure you're not deterred by thoughts of your own...
I have evidence and science, Nipper. Not Bronze Age myths. My people fly to other planets. Yours mutter the ancient inanities. My thoughts utilize knowledge, not visions that have been disproven. You can only repeat and can never explain. You still wait for a second coming that is 2,000 years over due. You excuse failed prophecies and fraudulent prophets, you can't distinguish between literal and fabulist, between history and fantasy. That's your right but many of us see through it and are not afraid to acknowledge it.
The Rapture and 2nd Coming is far from overdue. Israel wasn't reestablished yesterday and an entire generation has not passed away since 1948... Scientists have time and again felt that what they believed was so lofty, the Alchemists and Phrenologists not excluded...
I have evidence and science, Nipper. Not Bronze Age myths. My people fly to other planets. Yours mutter the ancient inanities. My thoughts utilize knowledge, not visions that have been disproven. You can only repeat and can never explain. You still wait for a second coming that is 2,000 years over due. You excuse failed prophecies and fraudulent prophets, you can't distinguish between literal and fabulist, between history and fantasy. That's your right but many of us see through it and are not afraid to acknowledge it.
Mine eyes have the glory of the coming of the truth.... this is the weeks best comment and made my Thanksgiving. Thanks Mak! Happy Turkey Day all of you!
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"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
I have evidence and science, Nipper. Not Bronze Age myths. My people fly to other planets. Yours mutter the ancient inanities. My thoughts utilize knowledge, not visions that have been disproven. You can only repeat and can never explain. You still wait for a second coming that is 2,000 years over due. You excuse failed prophecies and fraudulent prophets, you can't distinguish between literal and fabulist, between history and fantasy. That's your right but many of us see through it and are not afraid to acknowledge it.
Mine eyes have the glory of the coming of the truth.... this is the weeks best comment and made my Thanksgiving. Thanks Mak! Happy Turkey Day all of you!
I have evidence and science, Nipper. Not Bronze Age myths. My people fly to other planets. Yours mutter the ancient inanities. My thoughts utilize knowledge, not visions that have been disproven. You can only repeat and can never explain. You still wait for a second coming that is 2,000 years over due. You excuse failed prophecies and fraudulent prophets, you can't distinguish between literal and fabulist, between history and fantasy. That's your right but many of us see through it and are not afraid to acknowledge it.
Mine eyes have the glory of the coming of the truth.... this is the weeks best comment and made my Thanksgiving. Thanks Mak! Happy Turkey Day all of you!
Obviously, some perceive THANKSGIVING as simply another day off with pay. Without GOD, that's the best one can expect. A rather sad commentary for atheists who believe they've cornered the market on reality.
LittleNipper wrote:Obviously, some perceive THANKSGIVING as simply another day off with pay. Without GOD, that's the best one can expect. A rather sad commentary for atheists who believe they've cornered the market on reality.
Most people see Thanksgiving as an opportunity to get together with friends and loved ones that they don't see as often as they should. A chance to have a wonderful meal and re-establish relationships with those they hold dear.
Whether atheists or not, I'm sure your God would approve. Lighten up, Nipper. It's time you stopped telling God what to think.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
LittleNipper wrote:Obviously, some perceive THANKSGIVING as simply another day off with pay. Without GOD, that's the best one can expect. A rather sad commentary for atheists who believe they've cornered the market on reality.
Most people see Thanksgiving as an opportunity to get together with friends and loved ones that they don't see as often as they should. A chance to have a wonderful meal and re-establish relationships with those they hold dear.
Whether atheists or not, I'm sure your God would approve. Lighten up, Nipper. It's time you stopped telling God what to think.
And such an opportunity that one can thank God regarding Christians for and not atheists. It's time you get off the fence with regards to God and reconsider your eternal options.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
But these germs of a fruitful scepticism grew, and we soon find Dannhauer going a step further and declaring his disbelief even in the unicorn, insisting that it was a rhinoce- rous — only that and nothing more. Still, the main current continued strongly theological. In 17 12 Samuel Bochart published his great work upon the animals of Holy Scrip- ture. As showing its spirit we may take the titles of the chapters on the horse :
''Chapter VI. Of the Hebrew Name of the Horse."
"Chapter VII. Of the Colours of the Six Horses in Zechariah."
" Chapter VIII. Of the Horses in Job."
" Chapter IX. Of Solomon's Horses, and of the Texts wherein the Writers praise the Excellence of Horses."
'' Chapter X. Of the Consecrated Horses of the Sun."
Among the other titles of chapters are such as : Of Ba- laam's Ass ; Of the Thousand Philistines slain by Samson with the Jawbone of an Ass ; Of the Golden Calves of Aaron and Jeroboam ; Of the Bleating, Milk, Wool, External and Internal Parts of Sheep mentioned in Scripture ; Of Nota- ble Things told regarding Lions in Scripture; Of Noah's Dove and of the Dove which appeared at Christ's Baptism. Mixed up in the book, with the principal mass drawn from Scripture, were many facts and reasonings taken from inves- tigations by naturalists ; but all were permeated by the theo- logical spirit."^
The inquiry into Nature having thus been pursued nearly two thousand years theologically, we find by the middle of the sixteenth century some promising beginnings of a differ- ent method — the method of inquiry into Nature scientifically — the method which seeks not plausibilities but facts. At * For Franz and Kircher, see Perrier, La Philosophie Zcologique avant Darwin, Paris, 1884, p. 29 ; for Roger, see his La Terre Saincte, Paris, 1664, pp. 89-92, 139, 218, etc. ; for Hottinger, see his Historice Creationis Examen theologico-philologi- cum, Heidelberg, 1659, lib. vi, quaest. Ixxxiii ; for Kirchmaier, see his Disputationes ZoologiccE (published collectively after his death), Jena, 1736 ; for Dannhauer, see his Disputationes Theologies, Leipsic, 1707, p. 14 ; for Bochart, see \i\i Hierozoikon^ sive De Animalibiis Sacra Scriptura, Leydcn, 171 2.
that time Edward Wotton led the way in England and Con- rad Gesner on the Continent, by observations widely ex- tended, carefully noted, and thoughtfully classified.
This better method of interrogating Nature soon led to the formation of societies for the same purpose. In 1560 was founded an Academy for the Study of Nature at Naples, but theologians, becoming alarmed, suppressed it, and for nearly one hundred years there was no new combined effort of that sort, until in 1645 began the meetings in London of what was afterward the Royal Society. Then came the Academy of Sciences in France, and the Accademia del Ci- mento in Italy ; others followed in all parts of the world, and a great new movement was begun.
Theologians soon saw a danger in this movement. In Italy, Prince Leopold de' Medici, a protector of the Floren. tine Academy, was bribed with a cardinal's hat to neglect it, and from the days of Urban VIII to Pius IX a similar spirit was there shown. In France, there were frequent ecclesiastical interferences, of which Buffon's humiliation for stating a simple scientific truth was a noted example. In England, Protestantism was at first hardly more favourable toward the Royal Society, and the great Dr. South de- nounced it in his sermons as irreligious.
Fortunately, one thing prevented an open breach be- tween theology and science : while new investigators had mainly given up the mediaeval method so dear to the Church, they had very generally retained the conception of direct creation and of design throughout creation — a design hav- ing as its main purpose the profit, instruction, enjoyment, and amusement of man.
On this the naturally opposing tendencies of theology and science were compromised. Science, while somewhat freed from its old limitations, became the handmaid of the- ology in illustrating the doctrine of creative design, and al- ways with apparent deference to the Chaldean and other ancient myths and legends embodied in the Hebrew sacred books.
LittleNipper wrote:The Unicorn of the King James translation is likely a rhinoceros. The Behemoth could have been a brachiosaur. Some, who are not intimidated by evolutionary presuppositions, dare to suggest that the leviathan may have been some variety of ancient dinosaur – now extinct. Such thoughts may bother you; however, they do not bother me.
It is more likely that the Unicorn of the King James translation was the aurochs or wild ox, a now extinct ancestor of modern domesticated cattle, and it definitely was not a one horned creature. Here is one of many references to the word "re'em" which is the word the King James scholars translated to "unicorn" because, at the time, they had no idea what "re'em" actually meant. I think you will find with a little research that most biblical scholars, both secular and religious, agree with that assessment.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
