Some thoughts...

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_Jersey Girl
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Lemmie wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Tonight I managed to calm down a young woman in one internet location, who was in the middle of a complete freak out over a medical diagnosis she received, got her started thinking and demonstrated how one of her tests were wrong, explained some things to her so she can begin to deal with it. I talked to another woman in a different online location, who also received a diagnosis that plunged her directly into a similar meltdown. Both women were in shock, deeply depressed, and worried about their future and wondered if they even had one. I was invited to post on the first location by an RN who has watched my interactions and approaches to people on the second location and wanted me there to interact with some of the patients whose comments she receives.

Well done, Jersey, people should be so lucky to have a 'board nanny' like this, although, unlike mental, I might use the term 'Mary Poppins,' to more properly acknowledge the sheer, miraculous level of good you manage to do in situations like the above. Thank you for your efforts.


Thanks, Lemmie, I'm trying to do some good for people. In many of these cases, what is happening just floors me. Doctors are receiving (sometimes error filled) test results and letting their front desk staff (who aren't in a position to discuss anything with knowledge) call the patient with the diagnosis or worse yet, send them a letter with the diagnosis and very little other information, and patients, in turn, are freaking out because not only were they blindsided by a diagnosis, they have no one they can ask questions about it until they meet with their docs for what is often a short appointment time. It is just so destructive how this affects patients psychologically and emotionally. Imagine being 22 years old and thinking that you suddenly have no future. That's why these support groups are so important. They are staffed with health care professionals and also laypersons such as myself. Though one of the groups is all parents with children who have a common diagnosis.

I think I'm getting good at spotting the ones who need help peeling themselves off the ceiling. So far, so good!
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Jersey Girl. It takes a special talent to be of this kind of assistance to those who need calm and clarification. Whatever happened to diagnosis with the doctor...in his office..ready to answer questions. In any case, should I ever have troubles with something like this, I would love to have you in my corner. You rock!
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candygal wrote:Jersey Girl. It takes a special talent to be of this kind of assistance to those who need calm and clarification. Whatever happened to diagnosis with the doctor...in his office..ready to answer questions. In any case, should I ever have troubles with something like this, I would love to have you in my corner. You rock!


Thank you for your kind words, candygal. I don't know if it takes a special talent, but I think we are all meant to use our experiences as tools of insight to help others. It is not 100% compassion because I always gain something from helping others through a tough time, the sense of satisfaction helps to heal my own war wounds.
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Lemmie wrote:I might use the term 'Mary Poppins,' to more properly acknowledge the sheer, miraculous level of good you manage to do in situations like the above.


You don't know this woman!
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RockSlider wrote:
Lemmie wrote:I might use the term 'Mary Poppins,' to more properly acknowledge the sheer, miraculous level of good you manage to do in situations like the above.


You don't know this woman!
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Yes I love her also.



Hey, you posted the wrong pic! It's a bit more like this:


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I wish I could spend a little more time typing, because this is a point worth addressing in more depth, but I'm afraid I can't give more than this "Reader's Digest Condensed Version" at present.

It's perfectly okay to disagree with someone, call him or her out on his or her words vs. deeds, present alternate viewpoints to information given, etc. Yet at a certain point, being a contrarian simply for the sake of being a contrarian, even when one is technically ON-topic, counts as "trolling." And trolling is a derailment, if not a "hostile" one by dictionary-definition.

This is what happened to Tobin. He was always on-topic, but his contrarian-ness became not so much to provide the LDS point of view (as he did at the beginning) as it was to distract and annoy the opening poster (in my reasoned opinion). That's why I had to place his posts on the queue. When he noticed this, he departed immediately.

mentalgymnast's posts in grindael's most recent threads clearly suffered from "The Tobin Syndrome." How and why? Specifically, he called out grindael on his use of large font, boldfacing, and font colors because emphasizing one part but not another can draw the eye toward what one wishes readers to see and, by necessity, away from what one hopes readers don't see. Although this is a true possibility, mentalgymnast failed to show that grindael was guilty of that specific sin. He merely argued at length that such a thing could be at play, but never ever did mentalgymnast demonstrate that it actually was at play. Therefore, he was being a contrarian for no other reason to than to be a contrarian, thus causing his words to suffer from "The Tobin Syndrome."

Therefore, such posts needed to be split out of threads. But since the opening posts were deleted, there was no context left to anchor the posts within the Terrestrial Forum. They would've been left there anyway, but a whole lot of Telestial-caliber personal attacks had since taken place in those threads, so the Telestial Forum became the correct home for them; it wasn't because mentalgymnast was being punished. Also, the goings-on all fit a common theme, so rather than have multiple similar threads titled "Part 1," "Part 2," etc., it was administratively and aesthetically preferable to have them all within a single thread; it once again wasn't because mentalgymnast was being punished.

Do I wish that grindael hadn't ever deleted his opening posts? Yes. Do I wish that grindael had stuck to his guns and allowed all the unpleasantries to take place within a single, uh, place? Yes. But neither of those actions by grindael violated any rules, so mentalgymnast, I'm afraid you have no recourse for complaint regarding his part in the recent goings-on. I logged back in after-the-fact, so all my actions were in accordance with what I honestly thought was the correct course of action with what I was given to work with.

So, there everyone has it. Those are my justifications for my actions. You may disagree with the wisdom thereof, but I promise that I did what I thought was best, most fair, and in greatest adherence to both the spirit and letter of the rules we have in place.
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Hi Dr. Shades, thanks for taking the time to note your reasons and your assessment, giving the Condensed Version is not a problem, you are too kind to give so much time as it is!

Dr. Shades wrote:So, there everyone has it. Those are my justifications for my actions. You may disagree with the wisdom thereof, but I promise that I did what I thought was best, most fair, and in greatest adherence to both the spirit and letter of the rules we have in place.

My bolding added; Dr. Shades, in my opinion you have consistently done this since the first minute I laid eyes on this board; so there is no reason to doubt it now. Personally, I consider it one of the biggest contributions to the stability and longevity of this board.
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mentalgymnast just isn't any fun anymore.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
So, there everyone has it. Those are my justifications for my actions. You may disagree with the wisdom thereof, but I promise that I did what I thought was best, most fair, and in greatest adherence to both the spirit and letter of the rules we have in place.[/color]


Hi Shades,

From the facts/information that you had at your disposal and the perspective/intuition by which you viewed them I can understand where/how you came to the place that you did.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. :smile:

Regards,
MG
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When needs he must, yet faintly then he praises,

Somewhat the deed, much more the means he raises:

So marreth what he makes, and praising most, dispraises.

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